@ghost-of-a-duke saidI’m not sure he does that. Hasn’t he explained that already?
But sonship 'does' argue that God's original purpose was for man to become God.
Why don't you challenge that?!
@ghost-of-a-duke saidI agree that much of the terms and such that sonship uses are hard to swallow.
Why don't you direct this anger at sonship for the false teaching he continuously drips into the forum? For example, his regular use of the term God-ized and the obsession with the deification of man? Doesn't this have eternal consequences?
Saying his posts are too long to read is a bit of a cop out.
But he understands clearly the gospel of Jesus Christ.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidIf, in fact, sonship does argue that man's original purpose "was for man to become God", I would have to argue with that.
But sonship 'does' argue that God's original purpose was for man to become God.
Why don't you challenge that?!
I find no such thing in the scriptures.
How can the finite become infinite? Man will always and forever be finite because man had a beginning and God did not.
Man will never be God.
@josephw saidIf his version of the Christian God tortures non-believers in burning flames for eternity [for their "sins"] and your version does not, isn't that almost like the two of you are describing different Gods with markedly contrasting natures?
I agree that much of the terms and such that sonship uses are hard to swallow.But he understands clearly the gospel of Jesus Christ.
@fmf saidCan you or divegeester cite Scripture to back up your claims that people in hell are “burned alive for eternity” and are “tortured in burning flames for eternity?”
If his version of the Christian God tortures non-believers in burning flames for eternity [for their "sins"] and your version does not, isn't that almost like the two of you are describing different Gods with markedly contrasting natures?
I mean, seriously.
Give the book, chapter and verse that says people in hell are “burned alive for eternity” or “tortured in burning flames for eternity.”
@fmf saidI'll address that as an honest question.
If his version of the Christian God tortures non-believers in burning flames for eternity [for their "sins"] and your version does not, isn't that almost like the two of you are describing different Gods with markedly contrasting natures?
I don't engage with sonship about his theological predispositions.
Having said that, sonship and I, while we may disagree, will never put on display our differences in this forum.
Concerning directly your question, "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:" Shema Yisrael
I do not have a problem understanding sonship, nor do I experience consternation at some of the things he says.
To engage with sonship in this forum at variance to his beliefs is beyond the scope of this platform.
@josephw saidThe scope of this forum is debate and discussion. Given the eternal torture issue, you and sonship describe different God figures. The one he worships tortures and... hangs out the dead on burning chains to glorify Him and deter people on other worlds [my paraphrasing but it's near enough], while the one you worship does not torture non-believers. Two different natures: effectively two different Gods. How can this be "beyond the scope of this platform"?
To engage with sonship in this forum at variance to his beliefs is beyond the scope of this platform.