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    09 Jul '18 13:42
    Originally posted by @sonship
    FMF let me know when you have something better than Christ and the Gospel of Christ, to live by.
    If it helps you deal with the fact that we all die and that our lives are finite, and if it gives you personally some sort of meaning or purpose in life that you feel you wouldn't have if you didn't believe in supernatural beings and your own "assured" immortality, then you should just stick with what you've got and keep doing what you're doing. You might think you'd fall to pieces if you lost your faith. But I didn't.
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    09 Jul '18 13:471 edit
    Originally posted by @sonship
    I mean your humble "I don't know" is only of so much use to me.
    Then go ahead and keep thinking about eating Christ and marrying Christ and about how you are becoming more like Christ and about burning people hung out on chains and about people on other planets being afraid of Christ and about your everlasting life and all the rest of it. Go for it. If you were posting this stuff on a Christian website or on your own blog, you would not hear a single word of dissent or scepticism from me. Not a single word.
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    09 Jul '18 13:54
    Originally posted by @sonship
    That something is related to socialization or environment doesn't necessarily mean that truth is not conveyed.
    Christian sensibilities and beliefs in my environment as a child, as a youth, as a young man and as a middle-aged man have helped to shape me and my moral code. The same goes for you. You're still a Christian. While I am not.
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    09 Jul '18 14:571 edit
    Originally posted by @sonship
    At first i thought you didn't want to talk with people any more, but that isn't the case. It is facts and useful information that you really don't want coming into your ears.


    GIve me an example in your TOP two or three pieces of "useful information" that you have or someone else has written that I DIDN'T want to come to my ears.

    Indica ...[text shortened]... e your foremost examples of such "useful information."
    Do it in your next post please.[/b]
    I did not expect you to be reasonable. I will try to rise. How many gods are there? You will say one, So does everyone else, while pointing at not your god! None of you have evidence your particular choice is actually correct. So for the person trying to understand reality there are literally hundreds or even thousands of gods and exactly none of them show up.
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    09 Jul '18 16:01
    Originally posted by @lemon-lime
    Sometimes it's fun to talk like a narcissist:

    Hello. I'm highly intelligent and an overall splendid fellow... and you're not.
    It's true.
    You ARE highly intelligent, and an all around splendid fellow...
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    09 Jul '18 16:04
    Originally posted by @Coconut
    It's true.
    You ARE highly intelligent, and an all around splendid fellow...
    I know
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    09 Jul '18 16:42
    Originally posted by @lemon-lime
    It's true.
    You ARE highly intelligent, and an all around splendid fellow...
    Don't listen to him!
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    09 Jul '18 17:471 edit
    Originally posted by @Coconut
    Pay no attention to that cat behind the curtain!
    What cat?
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    09 Jul '18 18:11
    Originally posted by @Coconut
    Pay no attention to that cat behind the curtain!


    Curtain?
    What curtain?
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    09 Jul '18 19:321 edit
    Originally posted by @handsome-stranger
    Sounds like a familiar scenario.
    Yes, it does.

    YouTube
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    09 Jul '18 21:564 edits
    Originally posted by @apathist
    I did not expect you to be reasonable.


    My request was reasonable.
    You mean a Bart Ehrman ("Misquoting Jesus" ) or a Richard Carrier could not help you to shut that pesky Christian up with two juicy examples of variants in copies of the New Testament? I mean the kind SO DRASTICALLY changing the meaning of the overall teaching of the BIble ??

    Check out some debates with Dr. Bart Ehrman in the skeptical corner. Maybe you can get some examples he sites.

    People on both sides of faith do track and study these things, you know. You know that the people who really care about this have studious record keeping about variant readings in the thousands of full or partial copies of the NT.

    Would you like me to help you out a little ?


    I will try to rise. How many gods are there?


    That is another issue.
    There is one God.


    You will say one,


    Yes, I will say one.


    So does everyone else, while pointing at not your god!


    Well Hinduism would point to millions of gods.

    Monotheists would say "one" - Judiasm, Islam, Christianity. You could add Bahai, Jehovah's Witnesses (though they really believe in two God and the Word who was "a god" ),

    Not sure how many Mormanism has.


    None of you have evidence your particular choice is actually correct. So for the person trying to understand reality there are literally hundreds or even thousands of gods and exactly none of them show up.


    I don't share that experience with you apathist.

    Anyway, weren't you talking about textural corruption of the Bible? You're kind of jumping to another argument.
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    09 Jul '18 22:081 edit
    Check on some debates about the reliability of the New Testament to help make up your own mind.

    Both sides well presented.

    Bart Ehrman verses James White
    Does the Bible Misquote Jesus?

    YouTube : =MisquoteDebate

    Richard Carrier verses J P Holding
    Is the New Testament Reliable?

    YouTube : =CarrierVSJPHolding

    Bart Ehrman verses Daniel Wallace
    Is the Original New Testament Lost?

    YouTube : =NTLOST?Discussion
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    09 Jul '18 23:24
    Originally posted by @lemon-lime
    Another possibility is there could be many readers who never post anything out of fear of being attacked, but are not afraid to express their approval or displeasure with a thumb number.
    Ooh look there goes a pig with wings.
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