Suzianne et al

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Don’t worry about it, only “smart” people can understand.

Oh and 🙂

@vistesd2 said
As I reflect on days of yore, I recall that Suzianne was always gracious to me – as my spiritual proclivities evolved, even as they were far from her own.

I also had really good relationships with FMF and Divegeester. I also had really good relationships (back in that day) with people I argued with vociferously (e.g. lucifershammer, for those who remember).

I recall ...[text shortened]... of mutual respect and regard.

Am I just a dinosaur? (It’s okay if I am – I’d just like to know.)

I always felt a mutual respect between you and I, though we disagreed, then as now.

In my life I have found that smart and educated people, not like myself, have almost always been gracious to me in spite of my obvious ignorance. For that I thank you.

May the grace of God overwhelm your heart.

@medullah said
@vistesd2

The respect has gone, it's become a bear pit where it's not the argument that matters but how good the put down is?

I, as a realist, am a bit of a pessimist, even somewhat cynical, but at the end of the day an optimist.

Hope springs eternal.

@divegeester said
I disagree. It’s become a bit of a farce, yes. But mostly it’s just devoid of new blood.

10 years ago the forum was still a “bear pit” but there were so many more posters; Twhithead, Lemon jello, nemisio, rwingett, black beetle, the JWs, the Palestinian zealot scherzo, and a host of American Christians.

Some will say that the “bear pit” has caused the demise but i ...[text shortened]... are. But I have an affection for this place and the posters, despite my conflicts with some of them.

"But I have an affection for this place..."

🙂

@josephw said

May the grace of God overwhelm your heart.

What a horrible thing to wish!

I'd rather believe in a polite God who respects boundaries.

I don't understand how some people can claim to have a relationship with a cosmic monster who is always threatening to obliterate them.

@josephw said
"But I have an affection for this place..."

🙂

Because he gets to say cruel things to other people anonymously and with impunity.

@kevin-eleven said
What a horrible thing to wish!

I'd rather believe in a polite God who respects boundaries.

I don't understand how some people can claim to have a relationship with a cosmic monster who is always threatening to obliterate them.

Well the standard is love so vast so deep there is no end, love with a sacrificial zeal always putting the others before one’s self. The love that God the Father has for the Son, and Holy Spirit as they have for each other and the Father. As the Father shows us by sending His Son to redeem us, and Jesus who came took all that Hell could dish out for us, then taking on the guilt of man so we could receive His grace and merry through faith. He is worthy!

@kellyjay said
Well the standard is love so vast so deep there is no end, love with a sacrificial zeal always putting the others before one’s self. The love that God the Father has for the Son, and Holy Spirit as they have for each other and the Father. As the Father shows us by sending His Son to redeem us, and Jesus who came took all that Hell could dish out for us, then taking on the guilt of man so we could receive His grace and merry through faith. He is worthy!

Christianity presents a psychotic solution to a problem of its own invention.

@kevin-eleven said
Christianity presents a psychotic solution to a problem of its own invention.

If you think we are not broken and flawed in need of help from someone greater than us, than what you see around you, you must think is normal and as it should be.

@kellyjay said
If you think we are not broken and flawed in need of help from someone greater than us, than what you see around you, you must think is normal and as it should be.

I disagree with your somewhat masochistic and cultish if/than [sic] assertion, especially the part about what I must think.

Peace be with you, nonetheless.

@kevin-eleven said
I disagree with your somewhat masochistic and cultish if/than [sic] assertion, especially the part about what I must think.

Peace be with you, nonetheless.

Well, if you are okay with the state of man as is, as you are, and when you look
around and believe all of this to be as it should be, individually and corporately
on the whole, so be it.

@kellyjay said
Well, if you are okay with the state of man as is, as you are, and when you look
around and believe all of this to be as it should be, individually and corporately
on the whole, so be it.

You believe that ALL humans deserve to be tortured in burning flames for eternity, right? And you believe that the only way this fate can be avoided is through Christian faith, yes?

@josephw said
I, as a realist, am a bit of a pessimist, even somewhat cynical, but at the end of the day an optimist.

A “realist” in that you believe there still exists somewhere a literal, real “Tree of Life”?

An “optimist” in that you believe that a version of Jesus will be overseeing the deliberate and eternal burning alive of billions of non Christian?

@kevin-eleven said
Christianity presents a psychotic solution to a problem of its own invention.

One version of it does.

@fmf said
You believe that ALL humans deserve to be tortured in burning flames for eternity, right? And you believe that the only way this fate can be avoided is through Christian faith, yes?

I believe all humans were made in the image of God, that Jesus Christ came for each one of them because Of God’s love for them and without wavering came took on all the hate and worse that Satan and man could dish out against Him so that He laid down His life for us each, then took on our guilt and shame on to Himself paying for every sin and crime we ever did presenting for us a great salvation through Christ. That we are that loved by God, and if we are not found in Him in the grace offered we will be outside of Christ and will according to our lives stand before Christ who laid down His life for us to be judged.