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    Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool. Voltaire
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    06 Jul '17 17:08
    Originally posted by 667joe
    Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool. Voltaire
    Any worldview is a person's religion.
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    It used to be that collectivists made us think that they were a god, but when that fell out of favor, then they made us think that they spoke for God, but when that fell out of favor, they said that there is no God, as they filled the void of God and savoir to mankind once again.

    Yes, it was these same voices that put Christ on a cross.
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    06 Jul '17 18:08
    Originally posted by Eladar
    Any worldview is a person's religion.
    Every dictionary I can find seems to disagree with you.
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    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    Every dictionary I can find seems to disagree with you.
    Of course not, you want to believe I am wrong. Look for a definition that has to do with personal belief or conscience since these are based on one's worldview.

    All beliefs are based on unprovable assumptions.
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    06 Jul '17 18:44
    Originally posted by Eladar
    Of course not, you want to believe I am wrong. Look for a definition that has to do with personal belief or conscience since these are based on one's worldview.

    All beliefs are based on unprovable assumptions.
    My belief, that you don't know what you're talking about, is very much a provable assumption.
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    Millions of young Americans are following a new, anti-religion. It has one Commandment: "Please thyself." It has no beliefs, because it is based on rejection of others' beliefs. Without beliefs, the brain contains a vacuum, which is filled by social and political opportunists who know an easy mark when they see one.
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    06 Jul '17 20:013 edits
    Originally posted by John Osmar
    Millions of young Americans are following a new, anti-religion. It has one Commandment: "Please thyself." It has no beliefs, because it is based on rejection of others' beliefs. Without beliefs, the brain contains a vacuum, which is filled by social and political opportunists who know an easy mark when they see one.
    Of course they still have beliefs. Many of them have traditional religious beliefs.

    What religions do you think don't have beliefs that are self-serving?
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    06 Jul '17 22:15
    Originally posted by John Osmar
    Millions of young Americans are following a new, anti-religion. It has one Commandment: "Please thyself." It has no beliefs, because it is based on rejection of others' beliefs. Without beliefs, the brain contains a vacuum, which is filled by social and political opportunists who know an easy mark when they see one.
    The vacuum is filled with other religious beliefs that people claim are not religious.
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    06 Jul '17 23:04
    Originally posted by Eladar
    Of course not, you want to believe I am wrong. Look for a definition that has to do with personal belief or conscience since these are based on one's worldview.
    Don't get excited - I was just challenging your definition of religion.
    Why do you think it not in dictionaries?
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    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    Don't get excited - I was just challenging your definition of religion.
    Why do you think it not in dictionaries?
    As I pointed out, it is in the dictionary. I found it in dictionary.com

    I didn't bother looking at other sites.
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    The inventor of the world's first religion was Cain (Genesis 4:1-9)
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    07 Jul '17 10:33
    Originally posted by whodey
    It used to be that collectivists made us think that they were a god, but when that fell out of favor, then they made us think that they spoke for God, but when that fell out of favor, they said that there is no God, as they filled the void of God and savoir to mankind once again.

    Yes, it was these same voices that put Christ on a cross.
    You DO know that Christianity and Libertarianism aren't the best roommates, yes?
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    07 Jul '17 10:52
    Originally posted by sonship
    The inventor of the world's first religion was Cain [b](Genesis 4:1-9)[/b]
    Hebrews 11:4 says that "By faith Abel offered up a more excellent sacrifice than Cain". So presumably, Cain's offering was not made "by faith". Some Bible commentary says that Cain's offering was the effort of "dead religion", but I'm not sure what this means.
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    07 Jul '17 10:57
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    You DO know that Christianity and Libertarianism aren't the best roommates, yes?
    What would be the problem with someone being a politically Libertarian Christian who, say, did good works, helped the poor, and generally followed Jesus' commandments?
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