The Blackmail of God.

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Dive....do you realize how insane all Christians sound?

I have been real. You have NOT. You are willing to discard the entire New Testament. Your words.

Christianity may be the ultimate lie. Now what? You have no proof that Jesus existed. Tell me how Christianity matters. I have NO belief that the bible is real at ALL.

Originally posted by chaney3
Christianity may be the ultimate lie. Now what? You have no proof that Jesus existed. Tell me how Christianity matters. I have NO belief that the bible is real at ALL.

If what you say is true, what do you base the following claim on? "ALL humans are saved!!! All humans. Once Jesus was crucified, all humans are saved."

Originally posted by chaney3
You are not addressing the OP. God is blackmailing humans to believe in His Son. If we don't believe in Jesus......we go to hell. Whether or not you are an atheist, does not exclude you from this.

Do you believe in Jesus FMF? Or.....are you going to hell for your NON belief?

This is nonsense.
We are all going to hell according to some religion or other.
If you don't believe in that religion how can you be "blackmailed"?

Is Allah blackmailing Christians?
Is the Catholic God blackmailing Protestants?
Is the FSM blackmailing non-believers?

Originally posted by chaney3
You must be retarded FMF. If it were not for the bible, humans would not give a name, nor a character to a creator. Stop asking stupid questions. Please.

Before the bible you think religions had no "Creator"?
You must be retarded.

Originally posted by chaney3
I was talking to dive. Stay out of it when you are not addressed personally.

Try a PM. This is a PUBLIC FORUM.

Originally posted by chaney3
And, furthermore, you believe what YOU want to believe.

Don't you?
I do,

Originally posted by FMF
Yes but how does that idea ~ something that most Christians imagine to be true ~ affect non-Christians? It doesn't. How are these non-Christians in any way even remotely "held hostage" by stuff that they do not imagine to be true?

The serpent told similar things to Eve.

I guess you really can "know them by their fruits".

Originally posted by Suzianne
The serpent told similar things to Eve.

I guess you really can "know them by their fruits".

This does not address chaney3's suggestions that non-Christians are in some way blackmailed or held hostage in any way by Christians.

Originally posted by chaney3
It has become very apparent to me that Christians claim that the ONLY way to Heaven is the belief in Jesus. I don't even really understand what that means. However:

Jesus died on the cross. Does God claim that a human MUST believe that this actually happened.....or they go to hell? What sort of God says that you MUST believe in my Son.....or.....you g ...[text shortened]... and hold the rest of the world HOSTAGE to your beliefs. Do you realize how INSANE you sound???

Actually Hell is not there for the doubters and those that disbelieve it is there for sinners
which would be the haters, liars, thieves, and such.

Have you bothered to read what Jesus said on the matter of those that believed and those
that did not? Just the 3rd Chapter of the Book of John should be a nice place to start.

Originally posted by wolfgang59
Don't you?
I do,

I don't. I believe what the evidence tells me. I can't seem to believe what I want to believe (or I would be good at magic, and my best friends would be fairies).

Originally posted by twhitehead
I don't. I believe what the evidence tells me. I can't seem to believe what I want to believe (or I would be good at magic, and my best friends would be fairies).

You want evidence the same as I and other sane people.
I wish unicorns and dragons existed and I could grant
you your wish of having a "fairy friend" . We all believe
what we want to believe even if it is unpalatable and not
what we would wish for. Your belief is your choice and what you want.

I concede that WANT could have different nuances but you understand what I mean