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    19 Oct '17 08:59
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    I believe it was wrong.
    The vast majority of people think it was wrong.
    But obviously Hitler and others did not.

    Your example merely proves the point that morality is subjective.
    Unless of course Hitler believed it wasn't wrong when in fact it really was wrong! Which the vast majority of people can agree on.
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    19 Oct '17 09:46
    Originally posted by @dj2becker
    Unless of course Hitler believed it wasn't wrong when in fact it really was wrong! Which the vast majority of people can agree on.
    You are an idiot.
    That is exactly the point.

    Do you think Hitler thought genocide of the Jews was wrong?
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    19 Oct '17 11:21
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    You are an idiot.
    That is exactly the point.

    Do you think Hitler thought genocide of the Jews was wrong?
    The point is genocide of the Jews was wrong regardless of what Hitler thought!
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    19 Oct '17 11:33
    Originally posted by @dj2becker
    The point is genocide of the Jews was wrong regardless of what Hitler thought!
    Was the genocide of humanity wrong, regardless of what God thought? (Oh right, the moral law giver sits outside of his own morality).
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    19 Oct '17 12:03
    Originally posted by @dj2becker
    The point is genocide of the Jews was wrong regardless of what Hitler thought!
    I think it wrong, you think it wrong, most of the world think it wrong.
    But some do not.
    Which makes it morality subjective.
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    19 Oct '17 13:032 edits
    Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
    Was the genocide of humanity wrong, regardless of what God thought? (Oh right, the moral law giver sits outside of his own morality).
    Which genocide are you referring to? The flood? God decides when we live and when we die. Do you think it is always evil for the creator of life to decide when to end it? If so, according to which objective moral law? Oh right there is no objective moral law and therefore we can all do as we please. Except for God?
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    19 Oct '17 13:071 edit
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    I think it wrong, you think it wrong, most of the world think it wrong.
    But some do not.
    Which makes it morality subjective.
    Or those that don't think it's wrong aren't thinking right!
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    19 Oct '17 13:17
    Originally posted by @dj2becker
    Which genocide are you referring to? The flood? God decides when we live and when we die. Do you think it is always evil for the creator of life to decide when to end it? If so, according to which objective moral law? Oh right there is no objective moral law and therefore we can all do as we please. Except for God?
    Your position that there is a moral law giver, who does not adhere to his own moral law, is simply ridiculous. (But of course necessary to explain away the divine atrocities in the OT).
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    19 Oct '17 13:27
    Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
    Your position that there is a moral law giver, who does not adhere to his own moral law, is simply ridiculous. (But of course necessary to explain away the divine atrocities in the OT).
    No it's not. As a parent I am the law maker in my home. If I say the kids should be in bed by 7 it doesn't mean I have to abide by the same laws else the laws aren't valid.
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    19 Oct '17 15:36
    Originally posted by @dj2becker
    ...God decides when we live and when we die. ...
    We all have that power.
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    19 Oct '17 15:59
    Originally posted by @dj2becker
    No it's not. As a parent I am the law maker in my home. If I say the kids should be in bed by 7 it doesn't mean I have to abide by the same laws else the laws aren't valid.
    Good point.

    When do your kids get to tell you to stop telling them when to sleep?
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    19 Oct '17 16:47
    Originally posted by @apathist
    Good point.

    When do your kids get to tell you to stop telling them when to sleep?
    Do you mean when do the kids get to be disrespectful jackasses? Hopefully never, but I'm sure your kids always.
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    19 Oct '17 16:50
    Originally posted by @dj2becker
    So now you are seriously justifying rape?
    To save the world?

    You would doom us all in the name of your delicate sensibilities.
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    19 Oct '17 16:52
    Originally posted by @dj2becker
    No it's not. As a parent I am the law maker in my home. If I say the kids should be in bed by 7 it doesn't mean I have to abide by the same laws else the laws aren't valid.
    Like God, are you also at liberty to destroy them at will. (Or does that only apply to God).
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    19 Oct '17 16:53
    Originally posted by @eladar
    Do you mean when do the kids get to be disrespectful jackasses? Hopefully never, but I'm sure your kids always.
    Out here it is sixteen or eighteen or 21, depending. I guarantee your kids will stop worshiping you. I wonder if they'll ever come visit.
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