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  1. Standard member Rajk999
    Enjoying
    27 Jun '18 19:55
    A summary of some of the false doctrine preached by Christians

    N - not in the Bible
    NJ- not taught by Jesus Christ
    W - Wrong interpretation of the Bible

    1. Jesus is God and equal to God [NJ]
    2. All Christians professing faith have eternal life [W]
    3. God loves Sinners [N]
    4. Jesus died for all sins and all sins of the Christian are forgiven [N]
    5. Belief in the death of Christ is necessary for eternal life [NJ]
    6. Nobody is righteous [W]
    7. The Good Samaritan is Jesus Christ [N]
    8. Christians are not part of the Great Judgment of the Sheep and Goats [N]
    9. Christians who are found unworthy will be given a second chance [W]
    10. Non Christians will be tormented for eternity [W]
    11. Jesus condemned good works [N]
    12 A relationship with Christ is necessary for eternal life [N]
    13. Anyone doing good works is trying to earn their salvation. [N]
    14. Doing good works is not required for eternal life [N]

    Clearly the doctrine of Jesus Christ is worlds apart from the Church.
  2. 28 Jun '18 02:32
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    A summary of some of the false doctrine preached by Christians

    N - not in the Bible
    NJ- not taught by Jesus Christ
    W - Wrong interpretation of the Bible

    1. Jesus is God and equal to God [NJ]
    2. All Christians professing faith have eternal life [W]
    3. God loves Sinners [N]
    4. Jesus died for all sins and all sins of the Christian are forgiven [N] ...[text shortened]... ed for eternal life [N]

    Clearly the doctrine of Jesus Christ is worlds apart from the Church.
    #1, #5 & #12 are three big ones that cause much debate.
  3. Subscriber FMF
    Main Poster
    28 Jun '18 03:15
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    A summary of some of the false doctrine preached by Christians
    What about sonship's...

    15. Non-Christians will be hung out on chains, burning, forever, so that their woe "glorifies God" and acts as a warning to lifeforms on other planets?
  4. 28 Jun '18 03:50
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    A summary of some of the false doctrine preached by Christians

    N - not in the Bible
    NJ- not taught by Jesus Christ
    W - Wrong interpretation of the Bible

    1. Jesus is God and equal to God [NJ]
    2. All Christians professing faith have eternal life [W]
    3. God loves Sinners [N]
    4. Jesus died for all sins and all sins of the Christian are forgiven [N] ...[text shortened]... ed for eternal life [N]

    Clearly the doctrine of Jesus Christ is worlds apart from the Church.
    I am curious where you got this list from.

    Is there some bigger organization of people who advance like... the great compendium of heresies outlined here?
  5. Subscriber FMF
    Main Poster
    28 Jun '18 05:06
    Originally posted by @philokalia
    I am curious where you got this list from.

    Is there some bigger organization of people who advance like... the great compendium of heresies outlined here?
    Ah yes, an interesting ~ and revealing ~ question from you which seems to promise your usual doctrinal regurgitation in harness with a snooty kind of argumentum ad populum that does not have the traction you seem to think it does. Maybe that's what you intend to counter Rajk999's list of points to ponder with.

    He has, of course, been interacting with proponents of the items on his list here for 14 years.

    And you feign 'curiosity' about where he got his list from?
  6. Standard member Rajk999
    Enjoying
    28 Jun '18 10:56
    Originally posted by @philokalia
    I am curious where you got this list from.

    Is there some bigger organization of people who advance like... the great compendium of heresies outlined here?
    Is there one you would like to discuss?
    Let me know.
  7. Standard member Rajk999
    Enjoying
    28 Jun '18 10:56
    Originally posted by @fmf
    What about sonship's...

    15. Non-Christians will be hung out on chains, burning, forever, so that their woe "glorifies God" and acts as a warning to lifeforms on other planets?
    Definitely. Thanks
  8. Standard member Rajk999
    Enjoying
    28 Jun '18 10:57 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by @chaney3
    #1, #5 & #12 are three big ones that cause much debate.
    Agreed. None were stated by Jesus.
    However, stuff stated by Jesus are ignored.
  9. Standard member Rajk999
    Enjoying
    28 Jun '18 11:10
    Originally posted by @fmf
    Ah yes, an interesting ~ and revealing ~ question from you which seems to promise your usual doctrinal regurgitation in harness with a snooty kind of argumentum ad populum that does not have the traction you seem to think it does. Maybe that's what you intend to counter Rajk999's list of points to ponder with.

    He has, of course, been interacting with propon ...[text shortened]... s on his list here for 14 years.

    And you feign 'curiosity' about where he got his list from?
    There are some people who cannot read and form their own conclusions. They need someone look up to, and to believe in. So Philokalia needs some higher authority to make decisions for him.

    Some others like that would be Whodey who stated that I am trying to start a new church. Second son is another who keeps talking about me insulting the church. Sonship clearly is another who has latched on to the teachings of some man and he cannot understand any other doctrine not even one from Jesus Christ. And these are mature people who are should by now should be able to reason out things without relying on others.

    Maybe Im different. As a teenager I asked my parents who were both staunch church people ..'hey Jesus said abc, why are we believing / doing xyz' . Of course nobody likes to hear that. So Im accustomed to being sidelined for reminding people what Jesus said.. Its now fun actually 🙂
  10. 28 Jun '18 16:08
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    There are some people who cannot read and form their own conclusions. They need someone look up to, and to believe in. So Philokalia needs some higher authority to make decisions for him.

    Some others like that would be Whodey who stated that I am trying to start a new church. Second son is another who keeps talking about me insulting the church. Sonship ...[text shortened]... Im accustomed to being sidelined for reminding people what Jesus said.. Its now fun actually 🙂
    So says the troll with his nose buried in FMF's ass.
  11. Standard member Rajk999
    Enjoying
    28 Jun '18 16:28 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by @secondson
    So says the troll with his nose buried in FMF's ass.
    Nice Christian comment .. love it :😀
    Cannot deal with one single issue in the opening post.
    Your doctrine is foolishness and contrary to Christ.
    Where is your nose buried ? 😀
  12. 29 Jun '18 18:20
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    Nice Christian comment .. love it :😀
    Cannot deal with one single issue in the opening post.
    Your doctrine is foolishness and contrary to Christ.
    Where is your nose buried ? 😀
    "Cannot deal with one single issue in the opening post."

    We've dealt with all your foolish issues ad nauseam.

    "Your doctrine is foolishness and contrary to Christ."

    Your doctrine is heretical.

    "Where is your nose buried ?"

    In the Bible.
  13. Standard member sonship
    the corrected one.
    29 Jun '18 18:39 / 3 edits
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    Sonship clearly is another who has latched on to the teachings of some man and he cannot understand any other doctrine not even one from Jesus Christ.


    Everything I have written here I have substantiated WITH the Scriptures. And I know the Bible many times better than you do.

    What you have going for you is just a big mouth and bull-headed, isolated, individualistic version of the cult's errors from which you got booted out.
  14. Standard member KellyJay
    Walk your Faith
    29 Jun '18 19:35
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    Agreed. None were stated by Jesus.
    However, stuff stated by Jesus are ignored.
    LOL
  15. Subscriber FMF
    Main Poster
    30 Jun '18 06:15 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by @sonship
    What you have going for you is just a big mouth and bull-headed, isolated, individualistic version of the cult's errors from which you got booted out.
    To a neutral non-Christian observer like me, Rajk999's Jesus-based doctrine seems more morally coherent than your one. In light of this, you calling him a "big mouth and bull-headed" is perhaps inadvertent testimony to his tenacity and resilience.