@ghost-of-a-duke saidBut sir, sonship said divegeester "sounds" like an idiot. He didn't actually call him an idiot.
Is calling Dive an idiot something you will later deny and request people evidence?
I once heard a definition of the term to mean someone that is incapable of learning.
It appears that divegeester fits that definition because he appears not to understand anything sonship says, but instead consistently and continually replies to sonship's posts as though he doesn't seem to be learning anything in regards to what sonship says.
All it seems that divegeester is capable of doing is replying with vindictive troll bile full of resentment, bitter gall and impudent disdain.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidCan you redirect that sentiment towards divegeester?
You were putting forward Jesus as an example of why it is okay for you to call people names. Shameful.
After all, divegeester's language toward sonship far exceeds sonship's in terms of volume and sinister intent.
@SecondSon
It appears the heat got too high in this thread. Did divegeester and FMF retreat to their council chamber to strategize together their plans of fomentations?
Seems their lieutenant ToO arrived at the top of page 24 just in time for them to take some R&R.
I'm certain the posts challenging them on the previous two pages will go unanswered.
@secondson saidI went to bed in a way that accorded with the conventional imperatives of my time zone.
It appears the heat got too high in this thread. Did divegeester and FMF retreat to their council chamber to strategize together their plans of fomentations?
@secondson saidI am not shaking my fist "at the sky". I am talking about your ideology.
It's "working out OK" for now. As long as you keep shaking you fist to the sky and are still alive you can consider it because of God's long suffering and patience with you.
@kellyjay saidYou'd get more or less the same sense of purpose and meaning in life and a similar solace in the face of the inevitability of your death from subscribing to religions like Islam, Judaism and Hinduism.
Well I am not looking for a religion that makes me feel good or one that shooths my conscience when it should not be. I am only interested in the truth not warm and fuzzy feelings, because life isn’t warm and fuzzy it has in it the good and very bad.
@kellyjay saidThis elaborate dogma that you refer to as "the truth" is no more or less credible to me than the elaborate dogmas of other religions - which also cast themselves as purveyors of "the truth".
If you reject the truth because you don’t like it, then you are putting your feelings above truth. This does sound like what you have always done. If you don’t like the sound of something you reject it, so no matter what you are always shrinking the universe to how you feel about it.
@secondson saidWhy would the god figure central to your ideology consign billions and billions of non-Christians to "a fate worse than death"? What is the purpose of such a punishment ~ according to your ideology?
Now, while it may be incomprehensible to you that untold billions will suffer a fate worse than death, if a man that was crucified, died, buried and resurrected says so, I believe him.
@sonship saidYes, some people debate these things. But my question was to KellyJay: Why would a Jew or a Muslim or a Hindu argue with him about the scriptures of his religion? I was responding to something KellyJay said; I wasn't talking about someone in a Youtube clip.
Moslem / Christian debate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXyaG6fgswc
Jew / Christian debate
https://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?fr=mcafee&p=Jew+Christian+debate#id=2&vid=4d793ecabba45caaa63c519f47138dcd&action=click
Hindu / Christian debate
https://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?fr=mcafee&p=Hindu+Christian+debate#id=2&vid=dafc7c03c43626158541837a46f1bfec&action=click
@sonship saidIf a Muslim sees a Christian in a Youtube clip but is unconvinced by the rival religion's dogma, does that count - in your book - as willfully rejecting "the truth"? The key word in my question is "willfully"?
@FMFI wasn't talking about someone in a Youtube clip.
If you were really interested to know why, you might look at the Youtube clip to SEE why.
@FMF
Moslem's debate with Christians and vica versa because both the New Testament and the Quran talk about Jesus.
They say different things.
Either both are wrong or one is wrong and the other right.
I have had plenty debates with a Jewish person who regards NT references to OT passages to be illegitimate. On the Jews4Jesus discussion forum some orthodox Jews are regulars there counter arguing all the time in debates.
If you remember poster Dasa, you should remember that he debated Christians about the nature of honesty and truth and such deeper issues of spiritual life.
@sonship saidI was asking KellyJay.
@FMF
Moslem's debate with Christians and vica versa because both the New Testament and the Quran talk about Jesus.
They say different things.
Either both are wrong or one is wrong and the other right.
I have had plenty debates with a Jewish person who regards NT references to OT passages to be illegitimate. On the Jews4Jesus discussion forum some orthodox ...[text shortened]... e debated Christians about the nature of honesty and truth and such deeper issues of spiritual life.