The Experiencial Basis of the Trinity
09 Jul '11 15:19Originally posted by jaywillActually im more of a rocker (AC/DC) than a mocker, although i have been known to delve into it from time to time 🙂
In the last days will come "mockers". You're right on time.
09 Jul '11 15:311 editOriginally posted by jaywillOK. You believe in 1 God who is one person? Obviously not, you believe in three persons, so it's a bit of a cop-out to say you believe in 1 God.
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That's a lot of words to say you believe in 3 Gods.
There is one God.
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Which words did I write says I believe in three Gods ?
Be precise. No vague innuendos.[/b]
09 Jul '11 15:33Originally posted by galveston75I think part of the problem is that people expect God to mimic what they know--- despite the fact that the topic is one that has been lost for so long. We can regale others with a vast amount of intricate detail regarding a serial television program or the made-up realm of Harry Potter, but when it comes to theology, it's all just so confusing and hard to follow.
Unbelievable. No wonder no one can explain this trinity thing. I mean no disrespect but that's about the craziest buch of mumbo jumbo I've ever tried to read. And I mean "tried" as it makes no sense at all.
All I see here is a total misunderstanding of these scriptures and some very vague attempts to play with words and try to make it believeable some ...[text shortened]... h so ones resort to it being explained like this?
No wonder they call it a mystery!!!!!
09 Jul '11 15:351 editOriginally posted by galveston75I think your doctrine on the Godhead is worse as it does not accept the deity of Christ. You are therefore by default not a Christian per-se.
Unbelievable. No wonder no one can explain this trinity thing. I mean no disrespect but that's about the craziest buch of mumbo jumbo I've ever tried to read. And I mean "tried" as it makes no sense at all.
All I see here is a total misunderstanding of these scriptures and some very vague attempts to play with words and try to make it believeable some h so ones resort to it being explained like this?
No wonder they call it a mystery!!!!!
09 Jul '11 15:43Originally posted by divegeester=================================
OK. You believe in 1 God who is one person?
09 Jul '11 16:43Originally posted by jaywill"It is mysterious. But it makes sense." Ok, that's a new one.
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Unbelievable. No wonder no one can explain this trinity thing.
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There is no requirement place upon the disciples that they HAVE to be able to explain God's mysterious nature.
Can you point to an 11th commandment "Thou shalt surely be able to explain God" ? [/ ...[text shortened]... e passage yourself in Colossians. Christ - the mystery of God.
09 Jul '11 16:50Originally posted by jaywillYou say:
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OK. You believe in 1 God who is one person?
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The Bible tells me that there is ONE God.
So I believe that there is only one true God.
The human language is limited in describing the mysterious nature of this one God. I may "borrow" the word Persons or Person. B ...[text shortened]... od is to be enjoyed and experienced in deeper and deeper levels.[/b]
09 Jul '11 16:52Originally posted by jaywillSo since you can't come up with the words that our language doesn't have and you have to provide blanks, why don't we stick to the simple everyday language we all speak and the language that's in the Bible. It simply says he is 1 God. It does not say he is 3 God's in 1. It does not say he is 3 beings in 1. Right?
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OK. You believe in 1 God who is one person?
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The Bible tells me that there is ONE God.
So I believe that there is only one true God.
The human language is limited in discribing the mysterious nature of this one God. I may "borrow" the word Persons or Person. B ...[text shortened]... od is to be enjoyed and experienced in deeper and deeper levels.[/b]
09 Jul '11 17:411 editOriginally posted by jaywillIf you struggle so much with the language why adhere to an historically pagan construct to explain our God?
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OK. You believe in 1 God who is one person?
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The Bible tells me that there is ONE God.
So I believe that there is only one true God.
The human language is limited in discribing the mysterious nature of this one God. I may "borrow" the word Persons or Person. B od is to be enjoyed and experienced in deeper and deeper levels.[/b]
09 Jul '11 20:45Originally posted by divegeesterWhat pagan ideology are you talking about? How much do you know about
If you struggle so much with the language why adhere to an historically pagan construct to explain our God?
God is one.
There is one God.
This God is revealed in many ways and through many names
The current name given by God amoungst men is Jesus Christ, which as we all know means God saves.
Why complicate and compromise the truth with p ...[text shortened]... uestions about co-equality within a triune Godhead and the eternal Sonship?
Regards my friend
09 Jul '11 21:011 editOriginally posted by galveston75But it does say that the Father is God. It aslo says the Son is God.
So since you can't come up with the words that our language doesn't have and you have to provide blanks, why don't we stick to the simple everyday language we all speak and the language that's in the Bible. It simply says he is 1 God. It does not say he is 3 God's in 1. It does not say he is 3 beings in 1. Right?
Those who "add to the words of the Bible" have been given fair warning..........
10 Jul '11 00:13Originally posted by RJHindsJust for discussions sake, could you show me what verse says the the Holy Spirit is God or a God? Now don't get it confused where it say's "God's Spirit" but where it says the Holy Spirit is God or a God. Ok?
But it does say that the Father is God. It aslo says the Son is God.
And finally it says th Holy Spirit is God. We know that the Son, the
Word made flesh, as Jesus, was a human being and a person according
to the Holy Bible. We are told in the Holy Bible that the Holy spirit
has all the personality characteristics of a person and the same thing
true ...[text shortened]... erson to worship and that is Jesus (Yahshua), who is
definetely a person and the only true God.
10 Jul '11 02:55Originally posted by galveston75The following is a post I directed to robbie carobie, maybe you should
Just for discussions sake, could you show me what verse says the the Holy Spirit is God or a God? Now don't get it confused where it say's "God's Spirit" but where it says the Holy Spirit is God or a God. Ok?
10 Jul '11 03:031 editOriginally posted by RJHinds
The following is a post I directed to robbie carobie, maybe you should
have read it too because I used quotes from your own NWT. Notice
Acts 5:3-4. I Know you probablly still have your JW blinders on.
Jesus said, "He who is not with Me is against Me; and he who does not gather
with Me scatters. Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be s this not say the Holy Spirit is God for how can one play false with an
"active force"?
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