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    Originally posted by 7ate9
    if this was proved either way, then what would be big changes to earth.

    you know, for some Christians i guess they would have serious problems with their faith if it was disproved. even though it's good that they would see where their faith was wrong, it could have tragic results.

    at the same time, it would be very hard for evolutionist if it was prov ...[text shortened]... e people's entire lifes work would sink into the toilet.

    suicides would be a possibility?
    Faith cannot be proved "wrong".

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    Originally posted by Churlant
    Faith cannot be proved "wrong".

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    That's its strength, unfortuanately
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    10 Jun '06 18:12
    Originally posted by 7ate9
    if this was proved either way, then what would be big changes to earth.

    you know, for some Christians i guess they would have serious problems with their faith if it was disproved. even though it's good that they would see where their faith was wrong, it could have tragic results.

    at the same time, it would be very hard for evolutionist if it was prov ...[text shortened]... e people's entire lifes work would sink into the toilet.

    suicides would be a possibility?
    It wouldn't just be hard for evolutionary biologists. In order for us to "discover" that all the data we have collected for hundreds of years actually supports the hypothesis that a cataclysmic (continent altering) global flood occured about 4,000-4,500 years ago, a vast portion of our understanding of geology, physics, chemistry, biology, anthropology, and engineering would have to be completely changed.

    Evolutionary biologists would probably be far less affected than geologists and physicists.
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    Originally posted by 7ate9
    well, for those who believe in noah's ark, they may consider it part of their faith. in their foolishness they may give up their faith in God.

    you think about people who have spent their lives preaching about it. they would have been lying all that time to their congregation. it does have serious consequences, either way as it only takes one little lapse in life for suicide to happen.
    You can't disprove Noah's Ark. You can't disprove the Flood.

    You can stop or start believing in both, but you can't prove they didn't happen.

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    Originally posted by 7ate9
    well, for those who believe in noah's ark, they may consider it part of their faith. in their foolishness they may give up their faith in God.

    you think about people who have spent their lives preaching about it. they would have been lying all that time to their congregation. it does have serious consequences, either way as it only takes one little lapse in life for suicide to happen.
    It might be hard, but it's no cause to kill yourself over.
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    Originally posted by 7ate9
    why do you believe that?
    Again Supernatural Omniscient Omnipotent Manipulators trump all natural evidence.

    Even apparent logical inconsistencies can be "reinterpreted" to smooth away contradictions.

    It's really all a matter of your BS tolerance.
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    Originally posted by 7ate9
    why do you believe that?
    i'm interested in if you believe the flood happened?
    I believe you can't disprove the Flood because you can't prove a negative.

    Noah's Ark - if you find it, it existed. If you don't find it, you can't "prove" it didn't exist, all you can say is you didn't find it.

    No I do not believe the flood happened. I do believe that there was intense flooding in many areas due to natural disaster which served as a foundation for the Flood myth.

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    10 Jun '06 19:08
    Originally posted by 7ate9
    so you are saying the bible isn't true?

    you can prove a negative. if i say i've got a broken leg and i lie. then 4500 years down the track it is 'possible' to prove i lied. we are not looking for a broken leg... it's like a WORLD-WIDE FLOOD!
    You can prove some negatives - not all of them. We return to faith again.

    Yes, I'm saying the Bible is not literal truth.

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