Originally posted by galveston75Not merely my personal opinion. Consult any competent history of the Bible; you will find the points which I summarized to be confirmed.
Just the view of the bible that satan loves all to have....
It was recognized early in the Christian movement that the teachings of Jesus and the Apostles did not answer all questions pertaining to salvation. Ecumenical Councils were convened to address and clarify the remaining issues. If, after a thorough examination of the findings of Ecumenical Councils (the first was convened in Nicea in 325), you have not found answers to your questions (for example about the Garden of Eden), then you may rest assured that the matter is not essential to your salvation.
Originally posted by moonbusStill the result of satans influance which is to discredit God's word the Bible.
Not merely my personal opinion. Consult any competent history of the Bible; you will find the points which I summarized to be confirmed.
It was recognized early in the Christian movement that the teachings of Jesus and the Apostles did not answer all questions pertaining to salvation. Ecumenical Councils were convened to address and clarify the remaining ...[text shortened]... e Garden of Eden), then you may rest assured that the matter is not essential to your salvation.
Seems a little of the same tricks satan used on Eve which was to discredit God's words.
So I'll take God's words anyday, anytime over anything earthling man says against his Bible.
Originally posted by galveston75To say that 'The Garden of Eden' story is allegorical does not "discredit" the Bible ~ if anything, it makes the Bible more credible. The same can be said for the six day creation story.
Still the result of satans influance which is to discredit God's word the Bible.
Seems a little of the same tricks satan used on Eve which was to discredit God's words.
So I'll take God's words anyday, anytime over anything earthling man says against his Bible.
Originally posted by FMFYou say it's a parable? Prove it!
To say that 'The Garden of Eden' story is allegorical does not "discredit" the Bible ~ if anything, it makes the Bible more credible. The same can be said for the six day creation story.
Also I do not believe the earth and universe were created in six days. Gods time table is different then humans as in a day with God is a thousand years to us...
Originally posted by galveston75I agree. It probably took 6,000 years to create the earth and universe. It's no easy task, even for God.
You say it's a parable? Prove it!
Also I do not believe the earth and universe were created in six days. Gods time table is different then humans as in a day with God is a thousand years to us...
Originally posted by FMFThat's an irrational statement.
If it's supposedly "literally true" then it's a fairy tale.
"Supposedly" is irrelevant to whether it's literal or not. If it is literal, then your claim of it being a fairy tale is without bearing, and has no relevancy to the subject.
If creation took seven days, and if it is true, then it's not a fairy tale. If it is allegorical, and still true, then it's just an allegory of the truth.
If it's a fairy tale, then it's just not true, but you have absolutely no way of knowing it's not true.
Originally posted by josephwThe "supposedly" refers to fact that galveston75 believes/supposes that the fairy story/allegory is "literally true". There is nothing "irrational" about what I am saying here.
That's an irrational statement.
"Supposedly" is irrelevant to whether it's literal or not. If it is literal, then your claim of it being a fairy tale is without bearing, and has no relevancy to the subject.
Originally posted by HandyAndyIt's not that God couldn't do it in any amount of time he desided to create but according to the Bible his time keeping is different then ours.
I agree. It probably took 6,000 years to create the earth and universe. It's no easy task, even for God.
And I seriously doubt it was a tall task at all for him.
Why do you think it was? Do you know his power or abilities?
Originally posted by galveston75You're eating the menu and missing the meal.
Still the result of satans influance which is to discredit God's word the Bible.
Seems a little of the same tricks satan used on Eve which was to discredit God's words.
So I'll take God's words anyday, anytime over anything earthling man says against his Bible.
Originally posted by galveston75Then the story that talks about it happening in six days is an allegory if it is seeking to encapsulate billions and billions of years of natural processes.
It's not that God couldn't do it in any amount of time he desided to create but according to the Bible his time keeping is different then ours.