The Garden of Eden

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No, I would not say it was a requirement since we seen God create it without
death. In a sinful world God works all things together for our good, so He uses
even death, but isn't required for life.
Kelly

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When God created life He did so without death.
So after the fall, God uses it to do a lot of things, it does not mean it was
required had there been no fall.
Kelly

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I think we disagree on what the word 'require' means. If it can be done without
it, it is not required as far as I am concern. If it can be used to do, but
does not have to be there, it is not required as far as I'm concern. Required
means as I understand the word, you must have it, or it cannot be done.
Kelly

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Are you in love with death?

Yes, the perfection before the fall there wasn't death, we agree.
I'd also point out to you that God was doing a very good thing with that
universe too. The fall and evil as it entered our lives, is nothing but a bump
in the road. It is with us now, but only for a short time throughout eternity.

God is doing a work and it will not be hindered, He will have a universe that
is faultless, sinless, where we actually love one another, where lions and
lambs lay down together and it will be no big deal.

Regeneration only puts us where we should have always been, sacrifices
were not required before the fall.

Death is an enemy, who will like Satan be cast into the lake of fire.
Kelly

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No, I find you trying to make death so important to life that you seem to want
to make it essential to the whole process. While in reality it is an enemy no
different than Satan himself.
Kelly

Originally posted by FMF
Does that mean that galveston75's personal opinion on this issue is an example of what you often refer to as a "self-certified opinion"?

sorry but you are incapable of rational thought, when you tell us why smoking cigarettes is not a defilement of the body as you have stated despite the heaps of evidence that were presented to you, let is know, for until such times it is evident that its futile to attempt to engage you in rational debate by virtue of you being incapable of it.

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was it spiritual allegorical soil? like the trees?

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"... claimed temporal reality and literal presence of the Tree of Life"

Well heck, just say what you want if all it is, is a claimed temporal reality.
Kelly

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
sorry but you are incapable of rational thought, when you tell us why smoking cigarettes is not a defilement of the body as you have stated despite the heaps of evidence that were presented to you, let is know, for until such times it is evident that its futile to attempt to engage you in rational debate by virtue of you being incapable of it.

You are simply trying too hard to be funny, robbie.