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If you think your dark and depraved ~ and clearly morally inexplicable ~ ideology is likely to have such effect, you are definitely barking up the wrong tree, sonship. I am just interested in how you seem to demonstrate that it's morally inexplicable with your constant circular logic along the lines of 'It's moral because it's moral', 'It;s just because it's just', 'Christ will do it to you because he is divine', 'It's moral because Christ is doing it' and so forth.
I could say a few things about this.
Christ is not just anybody. I told you that I have to consider His Person, who and what He is.
I admit that eternal damnation is unimaginably harsh. But it is not for revolt and rejection of anyone else who has ever lived.
Now, goodbye.. My wife just came into the room and informed me that I have to get off the computer now because "There is another " life" and we have to talk about other things.
Latter folks.
@sonship saidSo the essential meaning and significance for billions and billions of non-believer human beings of Jesus being executed by the Romans - using a method that took just several hours - is that those billions and billions of human beings were going to be subjected to the most painful kind of torture that anyone can imagine [much worse than crucifixion], and this was going to be inflicted forever and ever as vengeance? This is effectively the "perfect morality" you are peddling, right?
@FMFWhy torture?
If you and I do not understand why suffering is involved, it is true that a man like Jesus willingly underwent Divine punishment (at least in His mind ) in your place and in my place.
I have to consider the Person and Who He must be.
In the flurry of exchanges I wrote that Job also argued about what did he do to Go ...[text shortened]... his, we will be condemned forever (with discomfort) for the guilt of revolt against goodness itself.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidI think that when everything is revealed what He does will be just and right, correct! I also believe even those cast into Hell will know this as well.
You think God will 'torment them for all eternity' and trust He will do it well?!
@sonship saidI like also sonship how you appear willing to jettison God's omnibenevolence when it suits your purpose.
Is there some historical creed in Christian dogma where you see the word "omnibenevolent" ?
I don't know if there is so I ask the genuine question.
Would "omnibenevolence" in God mean God would be good to the extent to allow His throne to be overthrown? I mean would such omnibelevolence allow Satan and all who follow him to be forever overthrowing God's will, i ...[text shortened]... hose who believed His salvation - to become sin that we might become God's righteousness in Christ ?