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Originally posted by @apathist“But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.”
I think you know how stupid you sound.
(1 Corinthians 2:14)
“God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?”
(Numbers 23:19)
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19 Apr 18
Originally posted by @js357The problem is, it’s not always adhered to “in their laboratories.”
Assuming that these scientists of your unsubstantiated ad numerum argument “treat” those who challenge their theories with distain, you may be confusing science, which is a discipline, with scientists, who, being humans, do not always adhere to their discipline, nor is it to be expected outside their laboratories.
19 Apr 18
Originally posted by @wolfgang59It's actually more like there is no answer because there is a plurality of possible interpretations of this story and a whole bunch of them do not hinge on the idea that the entire world was flooded.
No answer so forget the problem?
Good job Galileo, Newton and Einstein didn't think like that.
So the characterization of events in the OP is not actually a proper starting point to dealing with this problem.
19 Apr 18
Originally posted by @js357Well, let's see if I can come up with something coherent to contribute to this discussion.
i agree it’s not scientific to disagree with God since science is silent on the very existence or nonexistence of God and all other supernatural things. It deals only with natural explanations.
Was there a universal flood as the Bible says, or is there irrefutable scientific evidence that shows that no such thing ever happened?
That's where I get stuck.
I have a thought. If that much water came down from the sky, and erupted from under the earths surface, enough water to cover the tops of the mountains, and didn't subside for over a year, how much evidence would remain after 4500 years to facilitate scientific investigation?
I've seen, but mostly heard, given that I'm not a scientist, that there is in fact verifiable evidence to support the biblical account.
To be honest, I can't speak to the question of the validity of either position, except to say I default to the biblical account since I've never seen the Bible fail in any of its claims.
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19 Apr 18
Originally posted by @romans1009Well, we should expect the sinful nature of man to be expressed everywhere, no?
The problem is, it’s not always adhered to “in their laboratories.”
19 Apr 18
Originally posted by @secondsonHave you ever seen the Bible succeed in any of its claims?
I default to the biblical account since I've never seen the Bible fail in any of its claims.
20 Apr 18
Originally posted by @romans1009I think if a person were clued in to god speak, there would be no mystery. I just said no one.
Who do you think is a prophet nowadays?
Prophets are liars, obviously with agendas.
20 Apr 18
Originally posted by @js357I wish intelligent people would advocate holistic thinking. We're bogged down until then.
...science is silent on the very existence or nonexistence of God and all other supernatural things. It deals only with natural explanations.
Rocket science is easy.
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20 Apr 18
Originally posted by @apathist<<Prophets are liars, obviously with agendas.[/b]>>
I think if a person were clued in to god speak, there would be no mystery. I just said no one.
Prophets are liars, obviously with agendas.
Not so in Biblical times. The prophets in the Old Testament spoke the truth.
20 Apr 18
Originally posted by @romans1009Oh yeah, that has to be true.
<<Prophets are liars, obviously with agendas.>>
Not so in Biblical times. The prophets in the Old Testament spoke the truth.
20 Apr 18
Originally posted by @js357Cart before the horse, there.
"The reason I have absolute confidence in the veracity of the scriptures is because by them I know God and have a relationship with Him in terms spiritual, which cannot be ascertained by the physical senses, and cannot be understood unless one is born again. "...
20 Apr 18
Originally posted by @romans1009No great trick to make behavioral decisions in order to meet prophecy. Jesus did this.
Are you saying their prophecies didn’t come true?