The Hoax of the Missing Link

Originally posted by karoly aczel
If what you say is true than evolution is Truly amazing for having produced a mammal such as ourselves, with our big brains that just get us into trouble. To produce people like me, who are too intelligent to be doing too much and too stupid for trying to rationalize it. Or something like that ...🙂

Yes, evolution is amazing and so is the amazing variety of life it has produced including humans an our big brains.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
Are you for real or is this an act?

You should ask that of Dawkins.

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
10,000 years is the beginning of civilization, not everything.

Civilization had to start over about 4500 years ago due to the flood in
Noah's day.

Originally posted by twhitehead
Yes, evolution is amazing and so is the amazing variety of life it has produced including humans an our big brains.

Why can't you see that it is not evolution that is amazing; it is GOD?

Originally posted by RJHinds
Civilization had to start over about 4500 years ago due to the flood in
Noah's day.

We have archaeological evidence of civilizations in various parts of the world going back further than 4500 years. So either you disagree with a large part of archaeology, or other humans other than Noah and family survived the flood. For example the Chinese culture (and ethnicity) goes back at least 9000 years.

Originally posted by twhitehead
We have archaeological evidence of civilizations in various parts of the world going back further than 4500 years. So either you disagree with a large part of archaeology, or other humans other than Noah and family survived the flood. For example the Chinese culture (and ethnicity) goes back at least 9000 years.

You never pay attention to what is being said in the posts. I did not
say anything about civilizations before the flood of Noah's day.

Originally posted by RJHinds
Civilization had to start over about 4500 years ago due to the flood in
Noah's day.

The flood wiped out early civilization. Eden is currently under the seafloor of the Persian Gulf. Iraq was the first Sumerian kingdom set up after the Sumerians fled the flood. Remember, the Flood had to destroy a civilization in the story right?

http://ldolphin.org/eden/

E.g. Genesis 4:17 And Cain built a city and named it after his son Enoch

http://www.bricktestament.com/genesis/the_descendants_of_seth_and_cain/06_gn04_17c.html

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
The flood wiped out early civilization. Eden is currently under the seafloor of the Persian Gulf. Iraq was the first Sumerian kingdom set up after the Sumerians fled the flood. Remember, the Flood had to destroy a civilization in the story right?

http://ldolphin.org/eden/

E.g. Genesis 4:17 And Cain built a city and named it after his son Enoch

http://www.bricktestament.com/genesis/the_descendants_of_seth_and_cain/06_gn04_17c.html

Yes. Your right. So what?

Originally posted by RJHinds
Yes. Your right. So what?

So the flood filled up the planet with water, much more than was there before, enough to maybe go almost all the way to the top of Mount Everest, for instance, it would be almost 6 solid miles of water raining down in 40 days and 40 nights? 6 miles in 960 hours? Is that the way it was? That would be about 30 feet per hour, assuming the flood went up 29,000 feet, or 360 inches per hour or 6 inches per minute. Does that sound about right?

Originally posted by RJHinds
Yes. Your right. So what?

So that's the mistake young earth creationists constantly make. You guys think that if it wasn't written down it didn't happen. That's flawed thinking. People didn't start writing stuff down until they had to because food was getting scarce and they needed to start farming, and writing allowed them to keep track of the seasons via calendars.

Before civilization, life was one long camping trip/beach party with resources far beyond anything humanity could possibly use. Civilization began when population got so large that food and land became limited resources with respect to the population's needs.

Originally posted by sonhouse
So the flood filled up the planet with water, much more than was there before, enough to maybe go almost all the way to the top of Mount Everest, for instance, it would be almost 6 solid miles of water raining down in 40 days and 40 nights? 6 miles in 960 hours? Is that the way it was? That would be about 30 feet per hour, assuming the flood went up 29,000 feet, or 360 inches per hour or 6 inches per minute. Does that sound about right?

Global warming caused by carbon emissions from humans and their livestock melted the polar icecaps.

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Global warming caused by carbon emissions from humans and their livestock melted the polar icecaps.

That would only account for maybe a couple hundred feet of water rise max. We are talking about an alleged 29,000 feet.

Originally posted by sonhouse
So the flood filled up the planet with water, much more than was there before, enough to maybe go almost all the way to the top of Mount Everest, for instance, it would be almost 6 solid miles of water raining down in 40 days and 40 nights? 6 miles in 960 hours? Is that the way it was? That would be about 30 feet per hour, assuming the flood went up 29,000 feet, or 360 inches per hour or 6 inches per minute. Does that sound about right?

You don't understand that there was no high mountains before the flood.
It was one of the results of the flood that caused some mountains to get
so high. Don't forget that a large part of the water gushed up from
beneath the ground. There was some type of atmosphere that kept a
large amount of water in the sky above the earth creating a greehouse
like effect. Perhaps this had something to do with the reason people
before the flood lived several hundred years before they died. This
sudden rush of water causes a lot of force and pressure that change
the lanscape of the earth. The Grand Canyon is an example of it in the
other direction.

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
So that's the mistake young earth creationists constantly make. You guys think that if it wasn't written down it didn't happen. That's flawed thinking. People didn't start writing stuff down until they had to because food was getting scarce and they needed to start farming, and writing allowed them to keep track of the seasons via calendars.

Bef ...[text shortened]... large that food and land became limited resources with respect to the population's needs.

I know everything was not wriiten down. The Holy Bible says that.
So what is your real point? Is it that I must believe in evolution
which means earth and the universe must be 4.5 Billion years old?
Is that what you are getting at?

Originally posted by sonhouse
That would only account for maybe a couple hundred feet of water rise max. We are talking about an alleged 29,000 feet.

The Persian Gulf is not very deep. Bahrain is an example of a mountain that was converted to an island. Perhaps it was covered in water before the waters receded.

Maybe the mountains in question were really hills. Also, remember, glaciers covered half of Europe and North America.

http://ldolphin.org/eden/

Long before Genesis was written, Zarins believes, the physical Eden had vanished under the waters of the Gulf. Man had lived happily there. But then, about 5000 to 4000 B.C. came a worldwide phenomenon called the Flandrian Transgression, which caused a sudden rise in sea level. The Gulf began to fill with water and actually reached its modern-day level about 4000 B.C., having swallowed Eden and all the settlements along the coastline of the Gulf. But it didn't stop there. It kept right on rising, moving upward into the southern legions of today's Iraq and Iran.

"The Sumerians always claimed that their ancestors came 'out of the sea,' and I believe they literally did," says Zarins. "They retreated northward into Mesopotamia from the encroaching waters of the Gulf, where they had lived for thousands of years."