11 Nov 11
Originally posted by jaywillGod committed genocide in the great flood. Therefore, if god exists, he is horrific.
This thread I have opened for a continuation of the discussion between jaywill and bbarr on his charge of God being horrific.
It started on a thread called "The Bible Accepts Homosexuality".
11 Nov 11
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Originally posted by rwingettYea, except God created life and death so when either are appointed how does
God committed genocide in the great flood. Therefore, if god exists, he is horrific.
that make God horrific? Now someone who does not have the ability or the
authority to create life or anything else causes genocide that does cause
horrific damage when they end life I agree. When God acts He is within His
ability and rightful place to do so as He wills.
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Originally posted by KellyJayCreating life does not give the right to end it.
Yea, except God created life and death so when either are appointed how does
that make God horrific? Now someone who does not have the ability or the
authority to create life or anything else causes genocide that does cause
horrific damage when they end life I agree. When God acts He is within His
ability and rightful place to do so as He wills.
Kelly
If you 'create' give birth to a child, you do not have the right to subsequently kill that child.
God as described in the bible is an abomination.
And certainly not worthy of worship.
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11 Nov 11
Originally posted by SuzianneSin being defined as that which upsets him, so basically he gets to do whatever he likes.
He is only horrific against sin. He is not known to act without reason. And the reason is usually against sin.
Still going with god is horrific... or would be if he existed.
11 Nov 11
Originally posted by KellyJaySo since God has the power to create living things, it is therefore His rightful place to treat them however he fancies once He has created them? Sorry, but that doesn't seem to make any sense. Do you have any considerations that would serve to justify such a claim?
Yea, except God created life and death so when either are appointed how does
that make God horrific? Now someone who does not have the ability or the
authority to create life or anything else causes genocide that does cause
horrific damage when they end life I agree. When God acts He is within His
ability and rightful place to do so as He wills.
Kelly
11 Nov 11
Originally posted by rwingettIf a potter fashions some type of pottery from clay and he does not like
God committed genocide in the great flood. Therefore, if god exists, he is horrific.
how it is turning out, doesn't he have the right to squash it and start
all over until he makes something that he likes?
11 Nov 11
Originally posted by RJHindsIs "some type of pottery from clay" a moral patient?
If a potter fashions some type of pottery from clay and he does not like
how it is turning out, doesn't he have the right to squash it and start
all over until he makes something that he likes?
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11 Nov 11
Originally posted by RJHindsThis may be a case of mistaken identity.
If a potter fashions some type of pottery from clay and he does not like
how it is turning out, doesn't he have the right to squash it and start
all over until he makes something that he likes?
http://www.shsu.edu/~eng_wpf/authors/Twain/Mysterious-Stranger.htm
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"He went on chatting as simply and unaffectedly as ever; and while he talked he made a crowd of little men and women the size of your finger, and they went diligently to work and cleared and leveled off a space a couple of yards square in the grass and began to build a cunning little castle in it, the women mixing the mortar and carrying it up the scaffoldings in pails on their heads, just as our work-women have always done, and the men laying the courses of masonry - five hundred of these toy people swarming briskly about and working diligently and wiping the sweat off their faces as natural as life."
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"Two of the little workmen were quarreling, and in buzzing little bumblebee voices they were cursing and swearing at each other; now came blows and blood; then they locked themselves together in a life-and-death struggle. Satan reached out his hand and crushed the life out of them with his fingers, threw them away, wiped the red from his fingers on his handkerchief, and went on talking where he had left off: "We cannot do wrong; neither have we any disposition to do it, for we do not know what it is."
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"...the wives of the little dead men had found the crushed and shapeless bodies and were crying over them, and sobbing and lamenting, and a priest was kneeling there with his hands crossed upon his breast, praying; and crowds and crowds of pitying friends were massed about them, reverently uncovered, with their bare heads bowed, and many with the tears running down a scene which Satan paid no attention to until the small noise of the weeping and praying began to annoy him, then he reached out and took the heavy board seat out of our swing and brought it down and mashed all those people into the earth just as if they had been flies, and went on talking just the same."
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"But he went on talking right along, and worked his enchantments upon us again with that fatal music of his voice. He made us forget everything; we could only listen to him, and love him, and be his slaves, to do with us as he would. He made us drunk with the joy of being with him, and of looking into the heaven of his eyes, and of feeling the ecstasy that thrilled along our veins from the touch of his hand."
11 Nov 11
Originally posted by googlefudgeWho says creating life doesn't give the creator the right to end it, you?
Creating life does not give the right to end it.
If you 'create' give birth to a child, you do not have the right to subsequently kill that child.
God as described in the bible is an abomination.
And certainly not worthy of worship.
Seriously, by what standard do you get this? Who are you to set the rules
on what a creator can do with His creation? Fathers and Mothers are not the
creators of life, they go through the processes set in motion by God, but even
there they can hope for and not get what they want. I think are a little confused
about terms in this discussion.
Kelly
11 Nov 11
Originally posted by LemonJelloWhat creator doesn't do with what they make whatever they want? What
So since God has the power to create living things, it is therefore His rightful place to treat them however he fancies once He has created them? Sorry, but that doesn't seem to make any sense. Do you have any considerations that would serve to justify such a claim?
creator doesn't set standards on what they make as good or bad?
Kelly