@sonship saidMorality is a personal guide that helps us manage our interactions with others. There is no "final arbitrator" in any supernatural sense, at least not that I am aware of. Court systems provide arbitration when necessary and when moral disagreements overlap with legal obligations and prohibitions.
That is unless you are playing the part of a final arbitrator.
@sonship saidOur moral compasses are there to help us navigate our way through all this limitation and untrustworthy stuff.
Then if everyone's "moral compass" is just an opinion with no more or less validity then anyone else's then your's concerning my compass is inflicted with the same untrustworthy limitation.
@philokalia saidUnderstanding and coping with human interactions as we live our lives.
Navigation to what end?
The fulfillment of our personal desires?
@fmf saidI am curious, though... What is the point of human interaction and human life?
Understanding and coping with human interactions as we live our lives.
That affects us greatly in how we navigate it.
The moral foundation of things is vitally important -- and whatever conclusion we have about the ends of human interactions and life will have a great impact on what we believe the moral foundation to be.
@philokalia saidThat's for you to decide for yourself.
I am curious, though... What is the point of human interaction and human life?
@philokalia saidThis is why it's all in the realm of subjectivity: the perceived point of life, how to live our lives, how we interact, how we are affected by things ~ it's all completely personal, subjective and varies from person to person.
I am curious, though... What is the point of human interaction and human life? That affects us greatly in how we navigate it.
@philokalia saidThen you should decide what you see are "the ends of human interactions" and then establish for yourself what you believe is the vitally important "moral foundation of things". We all do it to varying degrees and in our different ways. Indeed, it is an essential part of who each of us is - our personhood, our character, our individuality.
The moral foundation of things is vitally important -- and whatever conclusion we have about the ends of human interactions and life will have a great impact on what we believe the moral foundation to be.
@philokalia saidI am not going to provide you with a meaning for your life; you have to find your own. And that works vice versa too.
So everyone has their own end. Everyone has their own meaning.
So... that's it?
@philokalia saidWell, I think so. This is information that deliberation using a moral compass gives us. But there's no guarantee that everyone is going to agree with with a decision one makes or a stance taken.
Is anyone right or wrong..?
If such decisions and stances result in lost friends, or in being excluded from a group or drawn towards another, or if they result in one being incarcerated - or even executed - by the society in which one lives, then that is part of the responsibility that one must take for one's actions.
@sonship saidI think what you mean this is that 'epitomizing the highest standard of human morality' is how Jesus has been portrayed by the people who carefully constructed a cult of personality around him in the decades and centuries after he was executed by the Romans for sedition.
But while you talk about superstition we have Someone in history who epitomizes the highest standard of human morality.