The natural

@kellyjay said
It is the revealed word of God

Then why so many contradictions?

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Then why so many contradictions?

Please we gone down that road I ask and when the conversation begins you disappear.

@kellyjay said
It is that the whole world every single person is walking in a fallen nature and God can not just ignore our sins.

If every single person in the whole world is a sinner, then we all need a physician.

If it is as you say, then Jesus cares to disagree with you. You say others pick and choose from scripture, but you apparently don't choose to understand what Jesus clearly implied when he compared Himself to a physician.

Then Levi gave Him a great feast in his own house. And there were a great number of tax collectors and others who sat down with them. And their scribes and the Pharisees complained against His disciples, saying, “Why do You eat and drink with tax collectors and sinners?”

Jesus answered and said to them, “Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance.

Apparently, to Jesus, there are persons who are righteous in the world, and also persons who are sinners. Therefore, we are not all sinners in need of a physician.

@pettytalk said
If every single person in the whole world is a sinner, then we all need a physician.

If it is as you say, then Jesus cares to disagree with you. You say others pick and choose from scripture, but you apparently don't choose to understand what Jesus clearly implied when he compared Himself to a physician.

Then Levi gave Him a great feast in his own house. And there wer ...[text shortened]... e world, and also persons who are sinners. Therefore, we are not all sinners in need of a physician.

You should read the whole Bible talking it seriously.

@pettytalk said
If every single person in the whole world is a sinner, then we all need a physician.

If it is as you say, then Jesus cares to disagree with you. You say others pick and choose from scripture, but you apparently don't choose to understand what Jesus clearly implied when he compared Himself to a physician.

Then Levi gave Him a great feast in his own house. And there wer ...[text shortened]... e world, and also persons who are sinners. Therefore, we are not all sinners in need of a physician.

You realize that God when He created gave each life the ability to procreate and man things to do on top of that. Work was part of the creation so even though we were God’s creation on His created world we were required to work it to shelter and feed ourselves.

In the law there were written requirements of do and don’t along with statues and precepts much like the rules of the road with the expectation we would obey them.

The entire OT points to God’s nature and lets us know He is going to come into the world as one of us, the Son of Man.

Around 400 years after the OT, we have Jesus Christ entering into the world, there are those who walked with Him during that time who wrote about Him, those who researched what happened who wrote about it, those whom He revealed Himself after His resurrection who wrote about Him.

The writings were done in different languages on different continents and immediately copied into other languages so that the documentation we have makes the NT more accurate than any other historical record by far.

So reading the scripture should be done not in some whimsical haphazard manner but with all seriousness! We have responsibility before God, and we will fail without Him. Everyone can be saved but not everyone wants to be.

@kellyjay said
You realize that God when He created gave each life the ability to procreate and man things to do on top of that. Work was part of the creation so even though we were God’s creation on His created world we were required to work it to shelter and feed ourselves.

In the law there were written requirements of do and don’t along with statues and precepts much like the rule ...[text shortened]... ility before God, and we will fail without Him. Everyone can be saved but not everyone wants to be.

You are hopeless because you don't want to be saved from your own ignorance on these matters. You have been brainwashed with the false hope of salvation to the point of no return. God wanted us to disobey him so that we may learn all about Good and Evil on our own.

Christ already came back, like a thief in the night. He quietly took with him the few who graduated, and left the rest of us, the many, here for more remedial training: Summer school! If we are all sinners then it's a good bet that we are all in hell already, to be purified with heat and fire.

"And what is purification but the separation of the soul from the body."

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@kellyjay said
You should read the whole Bible talking it seriously.

Seriously? God is laughing so hard that with his tears he may cause another universal deluge.

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@pettytalk said
You are hopeless because you don't want to be saved from your own ignorance on these matters. You have been brainwashed with the false hope of salvation to the point of no return. God wanted us to disobey him so that we may learn all about Good and Evil on our own.

Christ already came back, like a thief in the night. He quietly took with him the few who graduated, and ...[text shortened]... cation but the separation of the soul from the body."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1i9pvLJ3WCk

God is not tempted by evil neither does He tempt anyone with it. We are tempted by our lust not by God, He cannot be tempted with evil, neither does He tempt anyone with it.

There is nothing false about the Jesus Christ and salvation through Him. Your putting your own religious beliefs above what the scriptures say, difficult to be shown you are wrong when you are your own standard of right and wrong.

Brain washed would be the one who is set up to think that they cannot be shown they are wrong from what you can see outside of yourself.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Then why so many contradictions?

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Question and answer on contradictions

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Why trust the Bible

@pettytalk said
You are hopeless because you don't want to be saved from your own ignorance on these matters. You have been brainwashed with the false hope of salvation to the point of no return. God wanted us to disobey him so that we may learn all about Good and Evil on our own.

Christ already came back, like a thief in the night. He quietly took with him the few who graduated, and ...[text shortened]... all sinners then it's a good bet that we are all in hell already, to be purified with heat and fire.

Is this official Mormon teaching?