Originally posted by @thinkofone
Why do you pretend that I've haven't been more than forthcoming about my position on the words spoken by Jesus while He walked the Earth vs the words of others?
So how do we know that you simply do not dismiss all words as words of others (even in direct quotations of Jesus), which you do not like ?
Are these the words of Jesus or the words of others ?
" For neither does the Father judge anyone, but has given all judgment to the Son, In order that all may honor the Son even as they honor the Father, He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him." (John 5:22,23)
Are these the words of Jesus or the words of others?
"I am the resurrection and the life ..." (John 11:25)
You believe Jesus taught that He was the resurrection and the divine ZOE life - the eternal life ? Or are these the words of others who artificially put their invented sayings into His mouth?
What about the words from His mouth
AFTER the Gospels record Him rising from the dead ?
Ie.
"O foolish and slow of heart to believe in all that the prophets have spoken! ...Thus it is written, that the Christ would suffer and rise up from the dead on the third day,
And that repentance for forgiveness of sins would be proclaimed in His name to all the nations, beginning from Jerusalem." (see Luke 24:25; 46,47)
Why do you pretend that I've haven't been more than forthcoming about my position on the words spoken by Jesus while He walked the Earth vs the words of others?
I think that you are about to demonstrate that your intention is to amputate words away from Jesus which you don't believe or like. And the effect is to actually oppose and fight against the ministry of Jesus.
No one wanting to start a religion by cashing in on something Jesus taught, wants to admit to the world that they actually are ANTI - Jesus Christ.