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The Ox Goad god

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also from that site:

Many stories in Sumerian religion appear homologous to stories in other middle-eastern religions. For example, the Biblical account of the creation of man as well as Noah's flood narrative resemble earlier Sumerian tales very closely though the Sumerian myths were written many centuries earlier than the Tanakh (Old Testament) and the Bible. Gods and goddesses from Sumer have distinctly similar representations in the religions of the Akkadians, Caananites, and others. A number of related stories and deities have Greek parallels as well; for example, it has been argued by some that Inanna's descent into the underworld strikingly recalls (and predates) the story of Persephone.

seems like the Israelites weren't the only ones that "borrowed" the stories

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Of course , you might question how to salvage your god's reputation, and that really has an easy answer, Can't be done. The Old Testament is junk and the god in it is a false god.
There's nothing in your bible up to Joshua that wasn't copied from Sumerian mythology, even Moses baby boat ride was copied from the legend of Sargon.So, let's forget about the creation story, the flood and the tower of Bable and move on to something else, like what's the nature of god, if He exists.

Any ideas on what god consists of ?
Any ideas on what we consist of?
Strings, gauge fields , quantum fields and/or Higgs particles,,, anyone?

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Originally posted by frogstomp
Of course , you might question how to salvage your god's reputation, and that really has an easy answer, Can't be done. The Old Testament is junk and the god in it is a false god.
There's nothing in your bible up to Joshua that wasn't copied from Sumerian mythology, even Moses baby boat ride was copied from the legend of Sargon.So, let's forge we consist of?
Strings, gauge fields , quantum fields and/or Higgs particles,,, anyone?
Manifolds, knots, links and band connected sums?

bundles?

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Originally posted by frogstomp
Manifolds, knots, links and band connected sums?

bundles?
btw :

http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_arhs.htm

a site that ends with this:

"The findings of archaeologists in recent decades would probably upset most of today's Christians and Jews. Many of them, as children, were taught the remarkable stories of the Old Testament. However, discoveries from the Middle East are rarely discussed outside of scientific journals. Students in mainline and liberal Christian seminaries learn about these findings; however, they rarely discuss them in sermons."

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Originally posted by frogstomp
Manifolds, knots, links and band connected sums?

bundles?
IMHO, a natural god would not be God, because you are stuck without a First Cause.

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Originally posted by frogstomp
btw :

http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_arhs.htm

a site that ends with this:

"The findings of archaeologists in recent decades would probably upset most of today's Christians and Jews. Many of them, as children, were taught the remarkable stories of the Old Testament. However, discoveries from the Middle East are rarely discussed outside of ...[text shortened]... ristian seminaries learn about these findings; however, they rarely discuss them in sermons."
The findings of archaeologists in recent decades would probably upset most of today's Christians and Jews.

Findings, such as?

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Originally posted by Halitose
IMHO, a natural god would not be God, because you are stuck without a First Cause.
And as has been pointed out many times to you, even God needs to have had a begining. So first cause arguments are really invalid, because there's always what came before that. Or , to simplify , a first cause always has a zero cause before it.

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Originally posted by Halitose
[b]The findings of archaeologists in recent decades would probably upset most of today's Christians and Jews.

Findings, such as?[/b]
Read the thread, there are some findings here.

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Originally posted by Halitose
IMHO, a natural god would not be God, because you are stuck without a First Cause.
btw wtf is a natural god as opposed to a first cause god?

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Originally posted by frogstomp
btw wtf is a natural god as opposed to a first cause god?
Supernatural. Not bound by what we understand as cause and effect.

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Originally posted by Halitose
Supernatural. Not bound by what we understand as cause and effect.
and why supernatural and not naturalnatural.

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Originally posted by frogstomp
and why supernatural and not naturalnatural.
naturalnatural.

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Please define in layman's terms. 😀

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Originally posted by Halitose
[b]naturalnatural.

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Please define in layman's terms. 😀[/b]
natural as opposed to super

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Originally posted by frogstomp
And as has been pointed out many times to you, even God needs to have had a begining. So first cause arguments are really invalid, because there's always what came before that. Or , to simplify , a first cause always has a zero cause before it.
Not even a circle has a beginning. Why should God, infinitely more complex, have one ?

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Originally posted by ivanhoe
Not even a circle has a beginning. Why should God, infinitely more complex, have one ?
Turtles all the way down

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