The Sin Narrative

We are told that Adam and Eve committed the original sin, which produced the necessity for Jesus to die thousands of years later to 'fix' it.

Yet......God is supposed to be all knowing, which neutralizes this notion.

We cannot have it both ways. Either God knew what would happen, or He didn't. To create man, then test him to lose, just so He could sacrifice His son doesn't make sense.

The 'Jesus narrative' along with the 'original sin narrative' doesn't make sense.

God should be much more knowing...and mature.

Originally posted by chaney3
We are told that Adam and Eve committed the original sin, which produced the necessity for Jesus to die thousands of years later to 'fix' it.

Yet......God is supposed to be all knowing, which neutralizes this notion.

We cannot have it both ways. Either God knew what would happen, or He didn't. To create man, then test him to lose, just so He could sacr ...[text shortened]... he 'original sin narrative' doesn't make sense.

God should be much more knowing...and mature.

God should be much more knowing...and mature.

So he should rather have created you as a robot with no free will?

Originally posted by chaney3

We are told that Adam and Eve committed the original sin,

Can you tell me where we are told that?
I would like to read it for myself.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
So he should rather have created you as a robot with no free will?

Free will cannot explain that either God was ignorant of the possibility of choice of man, or that He did know, and the destiny of Jesus was decided with the 'birth' of Adam.

God knew.

The free will discussion is empty.

Originally posted by sonship

We are told that Adam and Eve committed the original sin,

Can you tell me where we are told that?
I would like to read it for myself.

Really?

I thought this was a given.

Originally posted by chaney3
Free will cannot explain that either God was ignorant of the possibility of choice of man, or that He did know, and the destiny of Jesus was decided with the 'birth' of Adam.

God knew.

The free will discussion is empty.

God knew that man with a free will would fall and he knew how he would fix it. What exactly is the problem?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
God knew that man with a free will would fall and he knew how he would fix it. What exactly is the problem?

Then God created a flawed system.

And He knew it.

Originally posted by chaney3
Then God created a flawed system.

And He knew it.

If it was designed to have the capacity of evil through choice then it was not flawed.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
If it was designed to have the capacity of evil through choice then it was not flawed.

Wrong. I did not own slaves. How long do I need to hear about slavery?

I am tired of hearing about Adam and Eve.

They do not apply to 'now'.

Originally posted by chaney3
Wrong. I did not own slaves. How long do I need to hear about slavery?

I am tired of hearing about Adam and Eve.

They do not apply to 'now'.

When did I mention Adam and Eve? Or slavery? What are you on about?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
When did I mention Adam and Eve? Or slavery? What are you on about?

God created a designed system to fail. He created us. We did not create ourselves.

If He created us to sin, even if we desire to be good, then frankly....it's God's problem.

He created us to fail.

Originally posted by chaney3
God created a designed system to fail. He created us. We did not create ourselves.

If He created us to sin, even if we desire to be good, then frankly....it's God's problem.

He created us to fail.

God doesn't make our choices for us, we make them ourselves.

Originally posted by chaney3
God created a designed system to fail. He created us. We did not create ourselves.

If He created us to sin, even if we desire to be good, then frankly....it's God's problem.

He created us to fail.

Have you decide whether you are a Christian or not yet?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
God doesn't make our choices for us, we make them ourselves.

Correct. And our choices prove that we have 'sin' on our mind.

Why?????

Because that's how we were created. Free will, it's not relevant because we were created to fail.

Originally posted by divegeester
Have you decide whether you are a Christian or not yet?

My best pal Dive.

No decision yet. I have issues with Christianity.