Originally posted by @thinkofoneYour heavy reliance on insults just proves the weakness of your position.
It's unfortunate that you were unable to provide a substantive response. Instead, like usual, your response is largely comprised of parroting what you've been taught thus far.
[b]you’re substituting symbolic meaning to John 6:51 instead of the plain meaning that supports the rest of the Gospels and Paul’s epistles.
Actually it was Jesus who ...[text shortened]... give you depth of understanding. It never will. Learn the lesson of the Parable of the Talents.[/b]
Based on what Jesus said in the Gospels - and even in John chapter 6 alone - you have to conclude He was either God or insane. I choose the former.
Count how many verses in John chapter 6 you have to reject to believe Jesus was only a man. There are quite a lot and some verses are statements from Jesus.
Your interpretation of eating and drinking (in other words, internalizing) makes more sense to me if Jesus is referring to His Spirit, especially given that is exactly what happened in Acts 2 and what is available to Christians today.
BTW, do you consider yourself to be a Christian? If you don’t believe Jesus Christ was/is God, I don’t see how you fit the definition. Which makes your statement regarding other Christians kind of odd. Did you mean “Christ followers” instead?
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Originally posted by @philokaliaAh, this old chestnut. You don't know what I am referencing.
Hey FMF, how about you actually try to write down a short question that you want me to confront or even go to that page and take what you want me and ctrl-V it right in the thread.
I don't know what you are referencing.
I also don't know if ti is worth my time.
On how many threads have you fallen back on this kind of 'reset'?
Look, it's OK. I read what you wrote earlier and I understand it, so, no, It's not worth your time.
Originally posted by @philokaliaThanks for your suggestions.
You got to open up, man, and then we will have a better idea of how to even deal with this.
We'll stop having like 100 page threads where half the pages are short quips of interrogative questions and flippant responses.
Let's see some actual, quality posts.
Quality, not quantiyt.
Originally posted by @fmfI’m glad you’re no longer using the phrase “intellectual capacity.” At least you realized your blunder there.
You keep asserting your faith in the same way over and over again, and you seem to think doing so substantiates your claim that Ghost of a Duke lacks the knowledge and discernment to understand what you choose to call "spiritual matters" while you, apparently, surprise surprise. do have the "knowledge and discernment" and the "understanding" to carry you to a " ...[text shortened]... elievers, where your assertions about your sincere faith might have some traction as "evidence".
I’ve already responded to the point in the quoted post and this is just another example of you repeating yourself - and right after you said there was no need for you to do that!
Repeating the same point in different words doesn’t make it more convincing.
Originally posted by @thinkofoneMore insults instead of substance?
You're the one who is too prideful to admit that your extremely limited experience as a Christian and the attendant lack of depth of understanding puts you at a real disadvantage.
You seem to always go that route when you’re busted on substance. In that way you’re different than FMF - when he’s busted on substance, he just focuses on something trivial or repeats the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.
Originally posted by @romans1009This is, for all intents and purpose, the same deceit/delusion that sustains Scientology.
As an atheist, you are the “natural man” referred to in 1 Corinthians 2:14 and lack the knowledge and discernment to understand spiritual matters. That’s not a put-down; it’s just reality. How can s carnally-minded person understand spiritual matters? They’re two separate planes.
Originally posted by @romans1009What you try to dismiss as "insults" are just statements of fact.
Your heavy reliance on insults just proves the weakness of your position.
Based on what Jesus said in the Gospels - and even in John chapter 6 alone - you have to conclude He was either God or insane. I choose the former.
Count how many verses in John chapter 6 you have to reject to believe Jesus was only a man. There are quite a lot and some verse ...[text shortened]... your statement regarding other Christians kind of odd. Did you mean “Christ followers” instead?
Your experience as a Christians IS extremely limited and your knowledge of the Bible lacks depth and breadth. There's no getting around these facts .
I was hoping that the reality check contained in my previous post would serve as a wake-up call for you. Evidently not.
For the most part you just parrot. Sorry, but it is what it is. Do yourself a favor and set your pride aside.
Originally posted by @romans1009No, it means you're not adding anything new to the conversation and my side of it is all there between pages 4 and 10.
Setting up the pieces for another game?
Originally posted by @romans1009The substance was in my previous posts and they were infinitely more substantive than anything I've seen you post on this forum.
More insults instead of substance?
You seem to always go that route when you’re busted on substance. In that way you’re different than FMF - when he’s busted on substance, he just focuses on something trivial or repeats the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.
Originally posted by @thinkofoneMore insults instead of substance.
What you try to dismiss as "insults" are just statements of fact.
Your experience as a Christians IS extremely limited and your knowledge of the Bible lacks depth and breadth. There's no getting around these facts .
I was hoping that the reality check contained in my previous post would serve as a wake-up call for you. Evidently not.
For the mo ...[text shortened]... part you just parrot. Sorry, but it is what it is. Do yourself a favor and set your pride aside.
Your position is untenable. I think even you must realize it.
By all means, live according to the practical teachings of Jesus. But don’t try to draw conclusions about salvation and God from someone you think is only a man. And as a “man” who said he was God and came down from heaven, you must secretly question whether he was off his rocker, correct?
Originally posted by @thinkofoneSo was Jesus Christ God or insane?
The substance was in my previous posts and they were infinitely more substantive than anything I've seen you post on this forum.
Or is this another question you’ll duck?
Originally posted by @romans1009Frame my contribution however you like - and in whatever way that suits your purpose here in this community - but, for my part, I thank you for taking the time to engage me in this discussion.
Yes, let’s rush those pages over to the Trolling Hall of Fame.
Originally posted by @fmfTaking the high road?
Frame my contribution however you like - and in whatever way that suits your purpose here in this community - but, for my part, I thank you for taking the time to engage me in this discussion.
Bring a flashlight; I know you’re not familiar with it and don’t want you to get lost.