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Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukePeople that are saved are lead by the spirit of God to do good works. Works done in the flesh don't save them neither does obeying the law. It is their faith and the spirit of God that leads them to do good works and obey the law.
“Every tree that lacks good fruit is cut down and thrown in the fire.”
Translates:
Even a tree that is 'saved' is still not spared the flames of hell if their fruit is bad. (Their produce/output).
Originally posted by @dj2beckerDid the Spirit of God tell you that looking after your own mother is good works?
People that are saved are lead by the spirit of God to do good works. Works done in the flesh don't save them neither does obeying the law. It is their faith and the spirit of God that leads them to do good works and obey the law.
Originally posted by @dj2beckerAre you only allowed to quote 'War and Peace' if you're Russian?
I like it when atheists quote the Bible, a book they supposedly don't believe in.
I quote the Bible to highlight how far some Christians have strayed from their own religious book. (Yourself included, in all your guises).
Originally posted by @rajk999Well, if he has the ability to do it successfully, he has yet to have exhibited it on this forum.
I've seen him do that already.
Lying and deceiving can get complicated.
Dont think the man as the ability to do it successfully.
Maybe his indwelt Holy Spirit is teaching him a lesson.
Do you think he's allowed pride to get the better of him which has led to having a self-image that is so far removed from reality? I've seen this happen with "born again" Christians. They get so puffed up with the idea that they are a "child of God" by virtue of faith alone that the can't see straight. It's a real problem since this makes it impossible to to reason with them.
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Originally posted by @thinkofoneDo you consider yourself born again? When you say they who are you talking about? Do you know anyone that claims that they have no sin?
[b]If you think being born again means that you instantly stop sinning immediately and never ever sin again...
Like usual, you've got this backwards. It is by virtue of the fact that they no longer commit sin that they are deemed "born again".[/b]
1 John 1:8
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
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Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeYou simply highlight that you cherry pick and don’t look at the scriptures as a whole.
Are you only allowed to quote 'War and Peace' if you're Russian?
I quote the Bible to highlight how far some Christians have strayed from their own religious book. (Yourself included, in all your guises).
Originally posted by @dj2beckerAs stated before, your 'Biblical cherry tree' is divinely inspired.
You simply highlight that you cherry pick and don’t look at the scriptures as a whole.
What does it matter which cherry I pick?
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Originally posted by @dj2beckerListen, this isn't the first time I've seen that quote. It was taken out of context then and you're taking it out of context now. I explained it before to you - or maybe it was one of the other "you"s. See if you can figure out what's being said in the passage you took it out of: 1 John 1:5-10.
Do you consider yourself born again? When you say they who are you talking about? Do you know anyone that claims that they have no sin?
1 John 1:8
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
Also see if can figure out what's being said here:
1 John 3
4Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness. 5But you know that he appeared so that he might take away our sins. And in him is no sin. 6No one who lives in him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him.
7Dear children, do not let anyone lead you astray. The one who does what is right is righteous, just as he is righteous. 8The one who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work. 9No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God. 10This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not God’s child, nor is anyone who does not love their brother and sister.
What's it going to take for you to live in reality?
The Bible is what it is. The Bible is steeped in metaphor, is widely open to interpretation and contains inconsistencies, discrepancies and outright contradictions. As such, there is no alternative to picking and choosing what parts to believe. Those who claim that they do not pick and choose are disingenuous at best.
Originally posted by @romans1009Bump for ToO
So was Jesus Christ God in the flesh or was he insane?
Or is this another question you’re going to duck?
What do you make of all the times Jesus said He was God and that He came down from heaven?
How can you claim to trust Jesus’ words but not trust the Gospel writers who transcribed them?
How do you figure Paul preached a different Gospel th ...[text shortened]... od, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God.”
(Acts 5:34-39)
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeOk for now 🙂
What I mean sir is that an atheist believes in neither 'salvation by works' or 'salvation by faith alone,' and so comes to the text 'without a hand in the game.' (On this issue).
So instead of interpreting a given text in a way that supports an already held belief about salvation, an atheist can read the text objectively and decipher it's true in ...[text shortened]... :15:
'The heart of the discerning acquires knowledge, for the ears of the wise seek it out.'
Originally posted by @thinkofone<<Listen, this isn't the first time I've seen that quote. It was taken out of context then and you're taking it out of context now. I explained it before to you - or maybe it was one of the other "you"s. See if you can figure out what's being said in the passage you took it out of: 1 John 1:5-10.
Listen, this isn't the first time I've seen that quote. It was taken out of context then and you're taking it out of context now. I explained it before to you - or maybe it was one of the other "you"s. See if you can figure out what's being said in the passage you took it out of: 1 John 1:5-10.
Also see if can figure out what's being said here:
1 Joh ...[text shortened]... hat parts to believe. Those who claim that they do not pick and choose are disingenuous at best.
What's it going to take for you to live in reality?>>
Total avoidance of the question. Insults and blather and no substance.
You should be running for Head Troll!
Originally posted by @dj2beckerLmfao .
Do you have anything to add to this discussion apart from asking rhetorical questions?
Get a load of this putz!!
Originally posted by @thinkofoneAnd how long must they no longer commit sin to be born again?
[b]If you think being born again means that you instantly stop sinning immediately and never ever sin again...
Like usual, you've got this backwards. It is by virtue of the fact that they no longer commit sin that they are deemed "born again".[/b]
Should I add this to all the questions you refuse to answer because they expose your positions as unBiblical and illogical?