Go back
The Triune God in Revelation 4&5

The Triune God in Revelation 4&5

Spirituality

4 edits

Originally posted by FMF
Oh dear. robbie carrobie's played the "religious" bigotry card. 😲
The religious prejudice is rampant. One need only read the first 'scholar' cited to realise that. What a shoddy article and what an underhanded tactic. Do you have any peer reviewed, unbiased scholarly articles to consider?


Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Oh dear FMF caught loading the deck with biased citations, ouch, that gotta hurt!😵
Here's another "loaded deck" for you, robbie. 😛

http://biblehub.com/john/1-1.htm ...yet another site dripping with religious prejudice? 😉

1 edit

Originally posted by FMF
Here's another "loaded deck" for you, robbie. 😛

http://biblehub.com/john/1-1.htm ...yet another site dripping with religious prejudice? 😉
Its actually quite interesting. BeDuhn himself states that the reason so many translations mistakenly translate the verse is because of the influence of the King James version of the Bible, it being derived from the Latin Vulgate and Latin has no articles and thus relies for its accuracy on the interpretation of the text by the translator. We are not denying that many translations do translate the text as, 'the word was God', we are objecting to it on the basis that such a translation ignores both the Greek idiomatic construct and normal rules of English grammar.


Originally posted by robbie carrobie
The religious prejudice is rampant.
😲😲😲


Originally posted by FMF
😲😲😲
yup haters gonna hate!😕

1 edit

Clearly the New world translation is the go to translation for the serious Bible student. Anything else simply doesn't cut it.😏


-Removed-
Concerning the OP you are on extreme opposite ends of an orthodox Christian understanding of the Father - Son - Holy Spirit.

I think that was my main point, yet underdeveloped.

As a kind of curiosity you do both agree on God being unrighteous in some of His pronounced judgments. "It is unrighteous of God to punish forever."

God IS a Monster towards Satan. God's treatment of Satan is a monstrous vindication and retribution for what he has done.

The Gospel is that man would be extricated from following Satan and sharing in his miserable destiny.


Originally posted by sonship
Concerning the OP you are on extreme opposite ends of an orthodox Christian understanding of the Father - Son - Holy Spirit.

I think that was my main point, yet underdeveloped.

As a kind of curiosity you do both agree on God being unrighteous in some of His pronounced judgments. "It is unrighteous of God to punish forever."

God IS a Monster towar ...[text shortened]... ospel is that man would be extricated from following Satan and sharing in his miserable destiny.
the gospel is that the Earth will become a paradise and the righteous will reside forever upon it! Amen to that!


1 edit


1 edit

-Removed-
BeDuhn did not merely examine the New world translation but several of the most widely distributed English translations but you would have to have read his book to know that. Have you read his book jivejeester?

2 edits

3 edits

-Removed-
Sorry you were telling us if you have read the book and how you debunked its claims regarding the New world translation of the Holy scriptures. That was your claim was it not. yes here it is,

BeDuhn's work on the NWT was comprehensively debunked along with your claims about a year or so ago in this very forum.

Lets start with BeDhuns claims. Perhaps you can tell us what those claims were and how you debunked them. Lets hope you have more success than your failure to tell us why the translations that you cite ignore the Greek idiom and common English grammatical use when translating John 1:1.

1 edit