The Troll says...

Originally posted by @fmf
Don't you do that too to a certain extent?

Do you feel hatred towards Rajk999?

What is the nature of this thread and your purpose with it?

"Don't you do that too to a certain extent?"

Do you?

"Do you feel hatred towards Rajk999?"

Not in the slightest.

"What is the nature of this thread and your purpose with it?"

Remains to be seen. What are you doing here?

Originally posted by @fmf
I've known Rajk999 for over 12 years. I don't think he's a "troll" at all. He takes some heat for his beliefs and has dished out some heat too. But I'd say he's taken more abusive comments on his chin over those 12 years than he's tried to land on anyone else's. Has he bent you out of shape with his advocacy of his theological beliefs, is that what's the matter?

What do you care. You don't have any theological beliefs to defend.

Why are you defending the troll?

Originally posted by @fmf
[b]A troll doesn't engage in rational debate....

But he does engage in rational debate.[/b]

A troll does not contribute to rational debate.

Sorry to hear your perceptions are askew.

Originally posted by @secondson
I'll answer that later. Right now I have a pressing matter to attend to.

You are ironing? Somebody likes you.

Originally posted by @apathist
You are ironing? Somebody likes you.

I guess I should have said "urgent". 😉

Originally posted by @rajk999
If it is in the Bible then post the reference.
The fact of the matter is that there is no reference to a relationship with God.
So rather than say that like an honest Christian you are attacking me

Did God have a relationship with human beings in the Bible?

Originally posted by @rajk999
He is just going to embarrass himself by his ignorance of what is in the bible.
The closest reference to a relationship with God or Christ is the opposite of that they think it is.

Did God have a relationship with human beings in the Bible?

Originally posted by @secondson
What do you care. You don't have any theological beliefs to defend.

Why are you defending the troll?

FMF is a Christ denier like rajk. They stick together.

"Relationship with God or Chrsit is not in the Bible."

"God had relationships with all kinds of people..."

A troll will change his position as long as it suits his argument.

"I can state categorically that there is no mention of a relationship with Christ in the Bible."

"However there may be other things that Jesus speaks of which can imply a relationship of some kind."

A troll can't make up his mind.

Originally posted by @secondson
[b]"I can state categorically that there is no mention of a relationship with Christ in the Bible."

"However there may be other things that Jesus speaks of which can imply a relationship of some kind."

A troll can't make up his mind.[/b]

The dumbo failed English Comprehension

No 'relationship' spoken of
But a relationship could be implied

Originally posted by @secondson
What are you doing here?

Discussing your OP.

Originally posted by @secondson
To my way of thinking?

You're not a Christian. Christian thinking isn't in your mind. So you really don't know which way I'm thinking.

You seem to be using the word "troll" as a synonym for "person you disagree with" which is not correct, regardless of your religion.

Originally posted by @secondson
[b]"Relationship with God or Chrsit is not in the Bible."

That statement exemplifies how bereft the troll is of the understanding of the scriptures.[/b]

Whether or not Rajk999 is a "troll" really is beside the point.
The statement is so obviously false as to be a candidate for a "doctrine of demons."

"Relationship with God or Chrsit is not in the Bible."

A person's life is very subjective to him. There could hardly be a closer relationship then one between a person and his own life.

The New Testament says that Christ is our life (our being the believers in Christ).

"For you died and your life is hidden with Christ in God. When Christ our life is manifested, then you also will be manifested with Him in glory." (Col. 3:3,4)

I have no relationship with Christ who has become my life?

Paul pioneered in the skill of living in the realm of Christ.

"For to me to live is Christ and to die is gain." (Phil. 1:21)

For Paul to live is Jesus Christ living again on the earth, but this time IN Paul. And Paul has no relationship with Christ?

Paul says he yearns within him "in the inward parts of Christ" . That means his inner emotions and feelings had become the inner emotions and feelings of Christ.

"For God is my witness how I long after you all in the inward parts of Christ." (Phil. 1:8)

But Paul has no relationship with Christ?

Christ promised to manifest Himself to those who receive Him.

"He who has My commandments and keeps them, he is the one who loves Me; and he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and will manifest Myself to him." (John 14:21)

Poor Rajk99, when he sees this his obsession will only see the word "commandments, commandments". Sure "has My commandments and keeps them" is there. The point is that there is a relationship.

If Christ manifests Himself to me there is a relationship.

Paul reminds the Corinthians that the relationship between them and Christ is so close that Christ LIVES in them.

"Test yourselves whether you are in the faith, prove yourselves. Or do you not realize about yourselves that Jesus Christ is in you, unless you are disapproved." (2 Cor. 13:3)

If you have no relationship with Christ then as a Christian you are disapproved.

Paul's FINAL WORD written in the NT underlines to his protegee Timothy, that the Lord Jesus is WITH his innermost spirit. And thus grace is with him.

Paul's final New Testament word -

"The Lord be with your spirit. Grace be with you." (2 Timothy 4:22)

IE Timothy, whatever you do don't forget the intimate RELATIONSHIP you have with Jesus Christ. Jesus the Lord is WITH ... your spirit. "

The LAST WORD in the entire BIBLE emphasizes the RELATIONSHIP of the believers with Jesus Christ. You can hardly get any more emphasis than that!

Revelation 22:21

"The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ be with all the saints. Amen."

Don't listen to Rajk999 that there can be no relationship with God and Christ. This must be a doctrine of demons.

I wonder how rajk would explain what Paul said in Philippians 4:13:

“I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.”