27 May 05
Originally posted by blindfaith101In the future eternity to come. After GOD has judged the sins of mankind. Would everyone of mankind that is in heaven? Would there be anyone there that was not chosen, before GOD created, the earth? Chosen to be with CHRIST forever with CHRIST?
Question.......... In the eternity to come, after GOD has dealt with those that are to be judged. Would there be anyone there that was not chosen, in CHRIST before the world began?
28 May 05
Originally posted by blindfaith101This is completely incoherent. Congratualtions!
In the future eternity to come. After GOD has judged the sins of mankind. Would everyone of mankind that is in heaven? Would there be anyone there that was not chosen, before GOD created, the earth? Chosen to be with CHRIST forever with CHRIST?
29 May 05
Originally posted by blindfaith101This is more impenetrable than a Zen koan.
In the future eternity to come. After GOD has judged the sins of mankind. Would everyone of mankind that is in heaven? Would there be anyone there that was not chosen, before GOD created, the earth? Chosen to be with CHRIST forever with CHRIST?
Here, try this --
What did your face look like before your parents were born?
That's a famous Rinzai Zen koan. If you can solve it, you will increase your spiritual stock by at least $3 per share on the Tao.
29 May 05
Originally posted by blindfaith101i have read this post like 15 times, and all i draw is a big old blank...no one can understand what exactly you are asking. maybe you could try rephrasing from a completely different angle.
In the future eternity to come. After GOD has judged the sins of mankind. Would everyone of mankind that is in heaven? Would there be anyone there that was not chosen, before GOD created, the earth? Chosen to be with CHRIST forever with CHRIST?
29 May 05
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Originally posted by bf101 on godsmackGeneral relativity is confusing. Wave-particle duality is confusing. Hegel's Phenomenology of Spirit is confusing (please cut me a break here, Bennett).
In the future eternity to come. After GOD has judged the sins of mankind. Would everyone of mankind that is in heaven? Would there be anyone there that was not chosen, before GOD created, the earth? Chosen to be with CHRIST forever with CHRIST?
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29 May 05
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Originally posted by no1marauderthat's the way i would interpret it if i were forced to, but honestly the posts are just logically impenetrable -- they are surrounded by a force field of nonsense.
Is he adopting predestination ala our resident Calvinist, Coletti?
29 May 05
Originally posted by no1marauderEverything is already decided (omnipotent God) so why bother with our farcical lives?
Is he adopting predestination ala our resident Calvinist, Coletti?
Cut to the Hell, like get it over with already.
There is something flawed here, I don't know how to express it, but if the fundies are right, I would never post this ...
29 May 05
I always regarded the idea of "Christian" predestination as about as bizarre as a belief could be; it's odd that Jesus would have spent sooooooooo much time instructing people to love and do good works towards their fellow man if it wouldn't matter one whit to their eventual salvation. As kneverknight points out, what was the point of our entire existence if it was decided before the universe started who would be saved and nothing we did would ever change that result? Perhaps someone who believes in predestination could attempt to answer these questions without the inevitable "God's will cannot be understood by non-Christians" (or presumably those Christians who do not accept predestination).