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    how many christians on here are fat? how many are obese? are christians more or less likely to be fat? isnt greed a sin?

    it seems to me that there are many things in western christian culture that come under attack for being against god. homosexuality being the main one that springs to mind.

    why do we see such a dramatic reaction to homosexuals from some parts of christianity, especially considering the bible says very little about it, yet its fine for a christian to be fat? abortion is a hot topic because its against a basic commandment.......yet its fine to be greedy, its okay to be fat.

    so why is fat okay but homosexuality wrong?
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    12 Jul '13 23:15
    Originally posted by stellspalfie
    so why is fat okay but homosexuality wrong?
    Because most people (in the West) are overweight and hetero.

    Interesting question you raise though, never hear anything about gluttony,
    and quite a few preachers seem to have had more than their share of cake!
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    13 Jul '13 00:05
    Originally posted by stellspalfie
    how many christians on here are fat? how many are obese? are christians more or less likely to be fat? isnt greed a sin?

    it seems to me that there are many things in western christian culture that come under attack for being against god. homosexuality being the main one that springs to mind.

    why do we see such a dramatic reaction to homosexuals f ...[text shortened]... ...yet its fine to be greedy, its okay to be fat.

    so why is fat okay but homosexuality wrong?
    6' / 178-181 lbs. 7-09-13 Blood Sugar: 103 (104 a month ago; two months ago 94). Blood Pressure: 96 over 61 (usually 88-98 over 64-69). Feel the best and the most active since my paralysis on Friday, December 10, 2010. Weight dropped from 210 to 149 by Mid-February, 2011, catheterized and unable to feed or bathe myself. Yes, Gluttony's a sin. -Bob
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    13 Jul '13 01:471 edit
    Originally posted by stellspalfie
    how many christians on here are fat? how many are obese? are christians more or less likely to be fat? isnt greed a sin?

    it seems to me that there are many things in western christian culture that come under attack for being against god. homosexuality being the main one that springs to mind.

    why do we see such a dramatic reaction to homosexuals f ...[text shortened]... ...yet its fine to be greedy, its okay to be fat.

    so why is fat okay but homosexuality wrong?
    When the bible talks about it, it is harsh in its condemnation.

    Edit: but I take the lazy way out and discard the bible as a moral authority, whereas some, like vistesd, have presented compelling cases that they weren't really talking about the same thing as today's Christians.
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    Originally posted by stellspalfie
    how many christians on here are fat? how many are obese? are christians more or less likely to be fat? isnt greed a sin?

    it seems to me that there are many things in western christian culture that come under attack for being against god. homosexuality being the main one that springs to mind.

    why do we see such a dramatic reaction to homosexuals f ...[text shortened]... ...yet its fine to be greedy, its okay to be fat.

    so why is fat okay but homosexuality wrong?
    We Christians believe there are many sins and all sins, except blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, can be pardoned by a forgiving God by believing and putting our faith in the Savior.

    We all have our weaknesses for particular sins, because of the natural urges in mankind, however, we are to attempt to resist these urges and change our ways to do as God commands. But if we fail, we believers have an advocate, who has experienced our everday temptations and will take our place when facing the Judgment of God.

    Now, to answer your question - why is fat okay, but homosexuality wrong?

    Neither being fat or being a homosexual is said to be wrong in the Holy Bible. The fat person may have become fat because of some medical reason and not necessarily due to greed or gluttony which is sinful. The Holy Bible describes a man lying with another man as with a women as an abomination to God. So we see, it is the acts that are sins.

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    13 Jul '13 08:46
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    We Christians believe there are many sins and all sins, except blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, can be pardoned by a forgiving God by believing and putting our faith in the Savior.

    We all have our weaknesses for particular sins, because of the natural urges in mankind, however, we are to attempt to resist these urges and change our ways to do as God com ...[text shortened]... th a women as an abomination to God. So we see, it is the acts that are sins.

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    What about cheating at chess?
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    13 Jul '13 08:551 edit
    Originally posted by stellspalfie
    how many christians on here are fat? how many are obese? are christians more or less likely to be fat? isnt greed a sin?

    it seems to me that there are many things in western christian culture that come under attack for being against god. homosexuality being the main one that springs to mind.

    why do we see such a dramatic reaction to homosexuals f ...[text shortened]... ...yet its fine to be greedy, its okay to be fat.

    so why is fat okay but homosexuality wrong?
    I have had extensive discussions on this very subject with proper noobster, what the Bible actually condemns is gluttony. Now you can be skinny and gluttonous, the Romans made a practice of eating and drinking gluttonously and then vomiting their food up so as to indulge in more, you can gluttonously consume alcohol and still remain skinny, its a misconception that you need to be fat to be gluttonous. Being fat is not condemned, practising gluttony is.
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    13 Jul '13 10:12
    Originally posted by stellspalfie
    how many christians on here are fat? how many are obese? are christians more or less likely to be fat? isnt greed a sin?

    it seems to me that there are many things in western christian culture that come under attack for being against god. homosexuality being the main one that springs to mind.

    why do we see such a dramatic reaction to homosexuals f ...[text shortened]... ...yet its fine to be greedy, its okay to be fat.

    so why is fat okay but homosexuality wrong?
    Its far easier to rail against something your not doing over something
    you are!
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    13 Jul '13 10:22
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    I have had extensive discussions on this very subject with proper noobster, what the Bible actually condemns is gluttony. Now you can be skinny and gluttonous, the Romans made a practice of eating and drinking gluttonously and then vomiting their food up so as to indulge in more, you can gluttonously consume alcohol and still remain skinny, its a mi ...[text shortened]... n that you need to be fat to be gluttonous. Being fat is not condemned, practising gluttony is.
    isnt being fat the result of gluttony?
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    13 Jul '13 10:25
    Originally posted by stellspalfie
    isnt being fat the result of gluttony?
    it may or may not be.
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    13 Jul '13 10:35
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    it may or may not be.
    im sure there are some exceptions but on the whole fat people have been consuming more than they need. wouldnt you agree?
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    13 Jul '13 10:41
    Originally posted by stellspalfie
    im sure there are some exceptions but on the whole fat people have been consuming more than they need. wouldnt you agree?
    perhaps but being fat is not condemned, gluttony is. They might simply be consuming the same as someone similar but do little exercise.
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    13 Jul '13 10:49
    Originally posted by divegeester
    What about cheating at chess?
    I gave you enough information in my post for you to figure that one out. If not, maybe you should read the Holy Bible more often.

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    13 Jul '13 10:56
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    perhaps but being fat is not condemned, gluttony is. They might simply be consuming the same as someone similar but do little exercise.
    in that case being a homosexual is not condemned. homosexual sex is. correct?



    if they are doing little exercise then they need less calories, so to get fat they are eating more than they need.
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    13 Jul '13 11:02
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    We Christians believe there are many sins and all sins, except blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, can be pardoned by a forgiving God by believing and putting our faith in the Savior.

    We all have our weaknesses for particular sins, because of the natural urges in mankind, however, we are to attempt to resist these urges and change our ways to do as God com ...[text shortened]... th a women as an abomination to God. So we see, it is the acts that are sins.

    The Instructor
    a tiny minority of people are fat because of genuine medical reasons. the overwhelming majority are fat because of greed. america has the worse obesity problem in the world. it also has the most hard-line christians picketing abortion clinics and denouncing homosexuality, why are they not also stood outside your restaurants and supermarkets with placards?
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