1. Standard memberAgerg
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    If you are a theist then I would assume that from your point of view, your religion is the correct choice and that you're very very lucky to have not been raised to follow one of those other *wrong* religions.

    My questions are:

    1) "Why is your religion correct whilst all others are wrong"
    2) "What happens to all those infidels that worship false deities and blaspemously attack your belief in the one and only true deity (or in some cases set and only set of true deities) when they die?
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    12 Mar '07 20:17
    Originally posted by Agerg
    If you are a theist then I would assume that from your point of view, your religion is the correct choice and that you're very very lucky to have not been raised to follow one of those other *wrong* religions.

    My questions are:

    1) "Why is your religion correct whilst all others are wrong"
    2) "What happens to all those infidels that worship false deitie ...[text shortened]... nd only true deity (or in some cases set and only set of true deities) when they die?
    1. Because the evidence supports it.
    2. That depends on their level of moral culpability for the act.
  3. Standard memberscottishinnz
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    12 Mar '07 21:12
    Originally posted by lucifershammer
    1. Because the evidence supports it.
    2. That depends on their level of moral culpability for the act.
    A ha ha ha ha ha ha! What a load.

    The evidence equally supports Flying Spaghetti Monsterism.
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    12 Mar '07 21:28
    Originally posted by scottishinnz
    A ha ha ha ha ha ha! What a load.

    The evidence equally supports Flying Spaghetti Monsterism.
    No, it doesn't.
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    12 Mar '07 21:43
    Originally posted by lucifershammer
    1. Because the evidence supports it.
    2. That depends on their level of moral culpability for the act.
    1. Because the evidence supports it.
    Damn!!! seems so obvious now!...Of course your religion's evidence supports the fact(?) that what you believe is truth whilst simultaneously showing the non-truth of each and every other religion coupled with the fact that none other than yours could possibly enter such evidence of it's own....silly me!

    2. That depends on their level of moral culpability for the act.

    So if a lot of those that have been duped by their evil parent's, friends, and peers (with morals instilled into them by such) to commit acts such as defying *your* religion or deity then they're totally screwed?...ok!

    (I bet they wish they'd followed *your* religion now eh? 😉 )
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    12 Mar '07 21:54
    Originally posted by lucifershammer
    1. Because the evidence supports it.
    2. That depends on their level of moral culpability for the act.
    ha ha ha, what a dimwit!
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    12 Mar '07 21:54
    Originally posted by lucifershammer
    No, it doesn't.
    oooohh, good come back!
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    12 Mar '07 22:01
    Originally posted by Agerg
    If you are a theist then I would assume that from your point of view, your religion is the correct choice and that you're very very lucky to have not been raised to follow one of those other *wrong* religions.

    My questions are:

    1) "Why is your religion correct whilst all others are wrong"
    2) "What happens to all those infidels that worship false deitie ...[text shortened]... nd only true deity (or in some cases set and only set of true deities) when they die?
    I thank God I don't have a "religion".
    Religion is an obstacle in the way of a relationship with God.
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    12 Mar '07 22:03
    Originally posted by josephw
    I thank God I don't have a "religion".
    Religion is an obstacle in the way of a relationship with God.
    Do you attend a church?
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    12 Mar '07 22:18
    Originally posted by kirksey957
    Do you attend a church?
    Regularly.
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    12 Mar '07 22:22
    Originally posted by lucifershammer
    No, it doesn't.
    Well, that's me convinced.

    Come on then, bring your evidence.
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    12 Mar '07 22:28
    Originally posted by Agerg
    [b]1. Because the evidence supports it.
    Damn!!! seems so obvious now!...Of course your religion's evidence supports the fact(?) that what you believe is truth whilst simultaneously showing the non-truth of each and every other religion coupled with the fact that none other than yours could possibly enter such evidence of it's own....silly me!

    [b ...[text shortened]... lly screwed?...ok!

    (I bet they wish they'd followed *your* religion now eh? 😉 )[/b]
    1. It's not "my religion's evidence"; it's evidence available to any reasonable person.

    2. You've misunderstood my point. A person with little or no moral culpability for his blasphemy is not "screwed".
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    12 Mar '07 22:34
    Originally posted by scottishinnz
    Well, that's me convinced.

    Come on then, bring your evidence.
    I'd probably start with someone like Swinburne (Plantinga can go a little overboard at times) on philosophical evidence for the existence of God. Also, I'd take a look at works on the historical Jesus by Luke Timothy Johnson or John Redford.
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    12 Mar '07 22:59
    Originally posted by lucifershammer
    I'd probably start with someone like Swinburne (Plantinga can go a little overboard at times) on philosophical evidence for the existence of God. Also, I'd take a look at works on the historical Jesus by Luke Timothy Johnson or John Redford.
    I'm not saying for a second that Jesus didn't exist. BUT, son of God literally or philosophically, or just a nice, enigmatic guy?

    Likewise, on the existence of God, well, the universe exists - so what? The Universe is ordered - so what? We exist - and we're narcissistic to believe that that requires a higher power.

    Come on LH, don't be shy - what are your thoughts?
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    12 Mar '07 23:28
    i am a theist who believes there is a God or Gods and i pray and worship him/her/them. i have to say that religion is stupid, they get people to do ridiculous things such as not eating certain foods and not marrying, that is lame.
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