Theistic Evolution

Originally posted by Nicksten
the theory of speculation. Scientist dislike being proved wrong...that's why they have exaggerated as you said, cause who can THEN prove them wrong.

p.p.s You do realize the Bible consists of man made words formulated into fantasies for people who don't have the gonads to embrace the universe for what it is; a beautiful creation that we have been engineered and fine tuned by evolution to inhabit don't you.

Originally posted by Nicksten
Sudden is now, sudden is something that happens quickly, sudden is unexpected or expected if you were expecting it. Sudden possible can not mean millions of years. There must have been a different word created to explain "sudden" differently, because by definition, the word sudden in the context being used here is wrong.

If something is billions of years old 20 million years is 'suddenly', 20 million is 0.003% of 6 billion.

Originally posted by Penguin
Well that says that he created them but it doesn't say [b]how he created them. There is nothing there to say that he didn't created them via the process of evolution over millions of years.

--- Penguin.[/b]

Well, the logical thing to do in this case is to read the first 2 chapters of Genesis and it will tell you exactly how God created man. There is no assumption that you can make from reading those chapters that God did however use evolution to create man. He created man from dust, not from the muddy soap 😉

Originally posted by Proper Knob
We have their skeletons, artifacts from where they lived and their DNA. What else do you want?

If we have their dna, they were human. That makes sense.

Originally posted by stellspalfie
ive got a good one for you mr hinds.

could you explain why the average hight of humans has been increasing? is this evolution in action or is god building a world of basket ball loving christians?

Heck, I am 1.92 m - to me, everyone seems to be just getting smaller - the difference we see 🙂

Originally posted by Nicksten
If we have their dna, they were [b]human. That makes sense.[/b]

Sorry you are wrong. Members of the Canid family are all distinct species yet they than can almost all interbreed. That's the same with humans and neanderthals, we shared a common ancestor in the not too distant past which still enabled breeding to be possible. The ancestral line hadn't diverged far enough for breeding to be impossible.

Originally posted by kevcvs57
p.p.s You do realize the Bible consists of man made words formulated into fantasies for people who don't have the gonads to embrace the universe for what it is; a beautiful creation that we have been engineered and fine tuned by evolution to inhabit don't you.

What! Men of God wrote those words, and some of them were there to record what God has said. The two biggest fantasies ever made up is evolution and the flying spaghetti monster! That kevcvs57 is fantasy stories you should turn your back on. Then you can really see that the creation of the universe is from God and you'll even more embrace looking into the sky, not even to mention that your kids are a perfect gift from the same creator.

The men of the Bible were there, where were you to prove them wrong?

Originally posted by Proper Knob
Nicksten, maybe you should read a book on the subject before you go around parroting your nonsensical bilge all over the forum. It might give you a small measure of credibility.

Well, I did do my reading, I did do my bit of studying, and that is why i believe my remark here is right - i don't see anything wrong with my remark and to be honest, credibility on RHP has no value.

I am still reading on evolution - and it is becoming laughable and in the end I am afraid I would have wasted valuable time.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
Sorry you are wrong. Members of the Canid family are all distinct species yet they than can almost all interbreed. That's the same with humans and neanderthals, we shared a common ancestor in the not too distant past which still enabled breeding to be possible. The ancestral line hadn't diverged far enough for breeding to be impossible.

I believe that humans and animals can not mate. If we can't today, we never could. The DNA is distinct like you said, which makes it impossible. The only thing that i can think of is that the DNA is somehow related, but that is it.

Originally posted by Nicksten
What! Men of God wrote those words, and some of them were there to record what God has said. The two biggest fantasies ever made up is evolution and the flying spaghetti monster! That kevcvs57 is fantasy stories you should turn your back on. Then you can really see that the creation of the universe is from God and you'll even more embrace looking into the s ...[text shortened]... from the same creator.

The men of the Bible were there, where were you to prove them wrong?

if children are a gift from god, why does he take them away so often? i think the current global death rate for under fives is around 6% thats a lot of children.

Originally posted by Nicksten
What! Men of God wrote those words, and some of them were there to record what God has said. The two biggest fantasies ever made up is evolution and the flying spaghetti monster! That kevcvs57 is fantasy stories you should turn your back on. Then you can really see that the creation of the universe is from God and you'll even more embrace looking into the s ...[text shortened]... from the same creator.

The men of the Bible were there, where were you to prove them wrong?

Prove It Nicksten! don't just accuse people you know nothing about of being liars. What actual prove is there that they were men of god. What you have is FAITH and that is a precious thing but it don't constitute PROOF.

P.S I never said the universe was not created by god.

Originally posted by RJHinds
I say this with the authority of the Holy Spirit.

The Holy Spirit wants his money back.

Originally posted by Nicksten
The book of Genesis in the Bible is almost one of the most important books. It covers the creation of everything. If you don't take it literal, then it must have been a big fat joke.

Why would it be a joke? I see nothing wrong with a more poetic reading.

Edit: I bet the reason you hold to a literal interpretation is tradition - "we've always read it that way".

Originally posted by Nicksten
The men of the Bible were there, where were you to prove them wrong?

Moses is usually credited as the author of Genesis, right? He wasn't there during the creation period; he was born hundreds of years after it. Even if the original story was true, it was passed down from Adam to Moses via oral tradition over hundreds of years. Oral tradition is hardly the most reliable way of preserving historical accuracy.

Edit: Adam wasn't there during most of the creation period, either. He certainly could not have witnessed his own creation from a 'pile of dust'.

Originally posted by SwissGambit
Moses is usually credited as the author of Genesis, right?

Not according to my bible.