30 Jan '12 22:16>
As some may know, I am Christian and in fact against evolution. I was recently asked if I would believe in theistic evolution.
Not even knowing that theistic evolution was such a big deal I did the logic...I checked it out. My findings may surprise some
of you, but to the other people believing in theistic evolution, I will surprise you too.
No human has actually observed the process of how life really has transformed. However, humans have done controlled experiments on
the theory of evolution and those experiments were observed and only really proves part of the theory, nothing more. It is not good
enough to assume the controlled environment to be the same as the un-controlled environment without proof. Further more it is
also assumed that tests done on the theory of evolution, is also the process humans for example underwent. No human has observed
life transformation from an ape to a human as we see ourselves today, and because our scientist have created environments to prove
the theory of evolution, they think this is also what happened to us, without the real evidence. This is speculating at best
and not the truth as there is no proof that humans for example underwent the same process, nor can anyone prove we did. A lot of
you will through fossil arguments my way. I'll just say this, our skeletons may look alike but that doesn't give anyone the idea
that it was evolution that was involved...only a fool would believe this. The other lot of you will say there is overwhelming evidence
from molecular biology and genetics and I will say this is only by scientific methods that scientist have picked up that humans and apes have something
in common. It means nothing and proves nothing that evolution was involved. Again if you do, you're a fool spec-cu-la-ting!
Now, like I said, for some this may be surprising...I do believe in some small limited part of evolution, and that part is where scientist
have created a controlled environment where tests have been done and the changes/adaptions has been observed of bacteria, insects, animals
or whatever the lucky specie was. With this type of scientific method, no one can disagree. This is a very small and limited part of evolution.
The bigger part of evolution is that it is unobserved, unproven and untestable...with the exception of the above paragraph.
Lets take a look at the bigger picture of evolution from a Christian point of view.
The fundamentals of evolution denies God. This is a main concern for any Christian and those Christians who believe in evolution
should think again about this. Yes, above I also said I believe in the theory of evolution, but bare in mind that it is on a very
specific and limited part of it which I also said no one can deny. If anyone is unsure what I meant, please don't make your assumptions
but rather ask me for specifics if I wasn't specific enough.
There is a big risk in believing in theistic evolution according to my findings. If you are a Christian that believes the same as I
as by my example above then we are bout a view.
If you are a Christian, and believe God creates through evolution, and that we as humans were part of this transformation (Human Evolution)
then you are not a fake Christian. What are my reasons for being so blatant? Bare in mind that I have said so already and you have to keep this
in mind...The fundamentals of evolution denies God! It conflicts with the Bible! Ask yourself this...
1. Did God create Adam or did evolution?
2. God took one of Adams' ribs and created Eve, did He really or did the Bible lie as evolution created Eve?
3. If we were made in the image of God, and Jesus was made in the image of God, God would not have had that image taken on another effect
as it makes no sense why.
I do believe that humans are undergoing changes right now, we are adapting to the circumstances around us, thus we are evolving, but we have
not evolved from an ape to a human being, and nor will any human being evolve in to the next best thing. Some people "evolve" (sex change) from man to woman
and vise versa, but this unfortunately is a sick thing.
My conclusion to theistic evolution is that people are trying to put God into evolution where there is a clear conflict between God and evolution in its entire capacity.
I will agree to believing that God has created evolution for specific transformations as the evidence is overwhelming in some instances, but on the rest for example
human evolution, evolution is taking a big fat chance.
Would I mind if my kids become involved in school with evolution experiments like for example how a virus has evolved into something more aggressive
and stronger and how it has overcome medicine that was suppose to kill it, hell no, who would want to miss out on that? Would I mind if my kids get told
in school that no God exists and that life formed from none life and after this life was formed evolution took a stand to evolve the muddy soap into
millions of different species, hell YES!
To googlefudge...
"Life on Earth originated and then evolved from a universal common ancestor approximately 3.7 billion years ago."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution
Logically, large-scale evolutionary theory depends thoroughly on specific notions of abiogenesis.
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evosite/misconceps/IAorigintheory.shtml
http://atheism.about.com/od/evolutionabiogenesis/a/evolution.htm - Focus especially on the 4th and 5th paragraphs.
I have done my bit of research and you could do the same. I guess with a bit more research I can "really" prove to you that abiogenesis
and evolution are related, but I think I have done so already.
Not even knowing that theistic evolution was such a big deal I did the logic...I checked it out. My findings may surprise some
of you, but to the other people believing in theistic evolution, I will surprise you too.
No human has actually observed the process of how life really has transformed. However, humans have done controlled experiments on
the theory of evolution and those experiments were observed and only really proves part of the theory, nothing more. It is not good
enough to assume the controlled environment to be the same as the un-controlled environment without proof. Further more it is
also assumed that tests done on the theory of evolution, is also the process humans for example underwent. No human has observed
life transformation from an ape to a human as we see ourselves today, and because our scientist have created environments to prove
the theory of evolution, they think this is also what happened to us, without the real evidence. This is speculating at best
and not the truth as there is no proof that humans for example underwent the same process, nor can anyone prove we did. A lot of
you will through fossil arguments my way. I'll just say this, our skeletons may look alike but that doesn't give anyone the idea
that it was evolution that was involved...only a fool would believe this. The other lot of you will say there is overwhelming evidence
from molecular biology and genetics and I will say this is only by scientific methods that scientist have picked up that humans and apes have something
in common. It means nothing and proves nothing that evolution was involved. Again if you do, you're a fool spec-cu-la-ting!
Now, like I said, for some this may be surprising...I do believe in some small limited part of evolution, and that part is where scientist
have created a controlled environment where tests have been done and the changes/adaptions has been observed of bacteria, insects, animals
or whatever the lucky specie was. With this type of scientific method, no one can disagree. This is a very small and limited part of evolution.
The bigger part of evolution is that it is unobserved, unproven and untestable...with the exception of the above paragraph.
Lets take a look at the bigger picture of evolution from a Christian point of view.
The fundamentals of evolution denies God. This is a main concern for any Christian and those Christians who believe in evolution
should think again about this. Yes, above I also said I believe in the theory of evolution, but bare in mind that it is on a very
specific and limited part of it which I also said no one can deny. If anyone is unsure what I meant, please don't make your assumptions
but rather ask me for specifics if I wasn't specific enough.
There is a big risk in believing in theistic evolution according to my findings. If you are a Christian that believes the same as I
as by my example above then we are bout a view.
If you are a Christian, and believe God creates through evolution, and that we as humans were part of this transformation (Human Evolution)
then you are not a fake Christian. What are my reasons for being so blatant? Bare in mind that I have said so already and you have to keep this
in mind...The fundamentals of evolution denies God! It conflicts with the Bible! Ask yourself this...
1. Did God create Adam or did evolution?
2. God took one of Adams' ribs and created Eve, did He really or did the Bible lie as evolution created Eve?
3. If we were made in the image of God, and Jesus was made in the image of God, God would not have had that image taken on another effect
as it makes no sense why.
I do believe that humans are undergoing changes right now, we are adapting to the circumstances around us, thus we are evolving, but we have
not evolved from an ape to a human being, and nor will any human being evolve in to the next best thing. Some people "evolve" (sex change) from man to woman
and vise versa, but this unfortunately is a sick thing.
My conclusion to theistic evolution is that people are trying to put God into evolution where there is a clear conflict between God and evolution in its entire capacity.
I will agree to believing that God has created evolution for specific transformations as the evidence is overwhelming in some instances, but on the rest for example
human evolution, evolution is taking a big fat chance.
Would I mind if my kids become involved in school with evolution experiments like for example how a virus has evolved into something more aggressive
and stronger and how it has overcome medicine that was suppose to kill it, hell no, who would want to miss out on that? Would I mind if my kids get told
in school that no God exists and that life formed from none life and after this life was formed evolution took a stand to evolve the muddy soap into
millions of different species, hell YES!
To googlefudge...
"Life on Earth originated and then evolved from a universal common ancestor approximately 3.7 billion years ago."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution
Logically, large-scale evolutionary theory depends thoroughly on specific notions of abiogenesis.
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evosite/misconceps/IAorigintheory.shtml
http://atheism.about.com/od/evolutionabiogenesis/a/evolution.htm - Focus especially on the 4th and 5th paragraphs.
I have done my bit of research and you could do the same. I guess with a bit more research I can "really" prove to you that abiogenesis
and evolution are related, but I think I have done so already.