Originally posted by FabianFnasIronic you chose this very contentious point of debate to illustrate the alleged clarity the "scientist" has on a topic.
A simple yes or a no would be a good start. The explanation will follow, of course.
As a scientists would be asked "Did the Universe once start at the BigBang?", and he would start the answer with a simple yes, thus eliminating any other, would satisfy the one who wanted to know. If he answered something like "Well, you see, this is a complaated questi ...[text shortened]... didn't know himself.
The qustion is fair. A yes or no would be a good start to explain.
Originally posted by duecerAnd the point is he didn't want an explination at all.
I think FF is correct. It requires a direct yes or no answer, which you then get to qualify. hemming and hawing plays right into DG's hands. Winning a debate is about having the ability to frame the question and answer, you allowed DG to control the question for 500+ posts, when you could have easily taken the initiative away from him.
Originally posted by Proper KnobWe're not talking about that thread...
[b]Well the 500+ thread was not designed by me or Robbie.[
This one was though.
Thread 133943[/b]
Originally posted by galveston75Is this the question? Weather a certain neigbour, like Mr Nilson nexttdoor, will go to heaven or not? Then your answer should be "I don't know", and that's it.
That's a silly example Fab. And that is of course assuming that the Big Bang was a fact which it isn't.
Again can you tell me with a certian yes or no that your neighbor will be saved or not? Of course not.
If this not was the question, please quote the original question, and we go from there.
The BigBang-example is a very good example, if you know the story behind. If you don't then the example might be a bit enigmatic.
For your information: No other theory explains observations better than the BigBang theory.
Originally posted by FabianFnasTrue theories are just that, theories. Nothing makes more sense then God creating it all....
Is this the question? Weather a certain neigbour, like Mr Nilson nexttdoor, will go to heaven or not? Then your answer should be "I don't know", and that's it.
If this not was the question, please quote the original question, and we go from there.
The BigBang-example is a very good example, if you know the story behind. If you don't then the example ...[text shortened]... For your information: No other theory explains observations better than the BigBang theory.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieSo your saying... my posts aren't spiritual and yours are.
well let us consider the nature of some of your posts, lets see, ummmm, ah yes, who is your favourite poster, informative or purely tabloid in nature? seems to me more given to personalities than to content, but hey, what's wrong with a little constructive criticism right?
seems to me you have no concept of the flow of time, for while it is admir ...[text shortened]... to the present and are now staring you in the face! watch out for that room full of mirrors!
I really dont care, just curious as to see where you draw the line of what is spiritual. Thnx🙂
Originally posted by galveston75Yeah but I get JW's come around and tell me how it is quite often.
Well the 500+ thread was not designed by me or Robbie but by the insistance by a few for a simplistic answer that does not exist as Robbie and myself have explained.
Can you tell me if your neighbor two doors down from you will gain life erternal by what you can see of his personality, spirituality and life style? Well, neither can I. So to ask someon ...[text shortened]... use wisdom and be patient in wanting to learn anothers point of view.
But I guess not........
Should I listen to them or god?
Originally posted by galveston75A theory is not a guessing. Not scientifically speaking. there are a lot of mathematical theories, that are certainly not a guessing but mathematically provable facts. Let's not go into this track again. A theory is not a guessing.
True theories are just that, theories. Nothing makes more sense then God creating it all....
You can believe that your god created BigBang, BigBang theory doesn't exclude that. It doesn't include god's intervention either. It doesn't say anything about god. This is science, not religion.
If you say that the BigBang isn't valid. Then please show me another theory where observations back the theory up better than BigBang theory.