"Too profound"

Originally posted by twhitehead
And you wonder this because you are yet to understand the laws of logic.

I take it then you can account for the laws of logic?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
I take it then you can account for the laws of logic?

No. The laws of logic do not need accounting for. It is your lack of understanding of them that leads you to believe they need accounting for. Your failure to understand this further demonstrates that your brain cannot be trusted to arrive at the correct logical conclusion.
So, given that you know know undoubtedly that you cannot trust your own brain, what are you going to do about it?

Originally posted by JS357
Calling it anything, even "it", might be a bad start, then.

That's exactly what I'm saying.
The full consequences of this may be a "game changer"

Originally posted by twhitehead
Not nuts. But definitely wrong. That is a logical necessity (that in any given set of differing contradictory opinions, at most only one can be right).
That people being so wrong prevails is at least in part a function of education and in part a problem with human brains not being all that good at logic.

Are you implying my logical faculties are retarded ?
I'll admit I don't specialize, but in general my left brain is good with general maths, physics, chemistry,etc.

Originally posted by karoly aczel
Are you implying my logical faculties are retarded ?

I am saying (not just implying) that everyones logical faculties are retarded (as in not perfect). It takes education and more to be good at logic. And even then all people make errors. Even Einstein.

Originally posted by karoly aczel
I'll admit I don't specialize, but in general my left brain is good with general maths, physics, chemistry,etc.

What makes you think your 'left brain' does the maths, physics and chemistry?

I was wrong chaney doesn't just get his religious belifs from pbs, he gets them from hbo too.

The problem of illogical thinking can usually be resolved by rational honest discussion. However, it is notable that on this forum, honest discussion is difficult to have with most of the religious posters. (note how Fetchmyjunk won't admit when he is wrong even when it is patently obvious to all that he is).

Originally posted by twhitehead
No. The laws of logic do not need accounting for. It is your lack of understanding of them that leads you to believe they need accounting for. Your failure to understand this further demonstrates that your brain cannot be trusted to arrive at the correct logical conclusion.
So, given that you know know undoubtedly that you cannot trust your own brain, what are you going to do about it?

Assuming my brain was designed by God it follows logically that I can trust it's thoughts to a certain degree. Can't see how you could trust it assuming it was not designed.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Assuming my brain was designed by God it follows logically that I can trust it's thoughts to a certain degree.

No, it doesn't. The fact that you can't see that, demonstrates the fact beyond all reasonable doubt that you cannot and should not, trust your thoughts.

Originally posted by twhitehead
I am saying (not just implying) that everyones logical faculties are retarded (as in not perfect). It takes education and more to be good at logic. And even then all people make errors. Even Einstein.

So we are on the same page.
You think my logic is ..... well wrong basically.

Originally posted by twhitehead
What makes you think your 'left brain' does the maths, physics and chemistry?

People make me think that.

But whether it's my left brain or 'the part of my brain that processes logic', I think this point is moot. Or are you leading somewhere here?

Originally posted by karoly aczel
So we are on the same page.
You think my logic is ..... well wrong basically.

Yes. And I think that you are well aware that it is wrong. Your behaviour when challenged demonstrates that. The difference between you and I, is that you are comfortable with it being wrong and prefer it that way.

Originally posted by karoly aczel
People make me think that.

But whether it's my left brain or 'the part of my brain that processes logic', I think this point is moot. Or are you leading somewhere here?

I just find it interesting how widespread the myth is that we use only the left half of our brain to do maths.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Assuming my brain was designed by God it follows logically that I can trust it's thoughts to a certain degree. Can't see how you could trust it assuming it was not designed.

Did you ever see the 1944 film Gaslight, with Charles Boyer and Ingrid Bergman?