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Originally posted by whodey
The fact that evil exists does not mean it comes from God. It merely means that people are free to reject God.

We demand such freedom. Without it, we would consider our existence as nonexistence.
Why not use Reply instead of Reply & Quote?

Non-sequiturs do not make you sound deep, whodey. 😀

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Originally posted by FMF
Why not use Reply instead of Reply & Quote?

Non-sequiturs do not make you sound deep, whodey. 😀
You would rather be a slave to God?

That does not sound like a good God to me.

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Originally posted by whodey
You would rather be a slave to God?

That does not sound like a good God to me.
Different people go for different scripts. I have no reason to imagine either of us being "a slave to God". If you are, then that is for you. Many Christians describe themselves in terms comparable to them being "a slave to God", and they do so all the time. If you don't go for that, well just describe your God figure in a different way. Whatever makes you feel special, right?

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Originally posted by whodey
Logically, if God is all powerful then he would have to be good because good still exists.

The argument of being partially good is absurd to me.
Do you agree with this logic? :-
Logically, if God is all powerful then he would have to be evil because evil still exists.

If not then perhaps you see the fallacy of your own statement.

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Originally posted by wolfgang59
Do you agree with this logic? :-
Logically, if God is all powerful then he would have to be evil because evil still exists.

If not then perhaps you see the fallacy of your own statement.
If God were evil, then he could snuff out all good.

This leaves two options. God is not all powerful or God allows evil to exist for a time.

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Originally posted by whodey
If God were evil, then he could snuff out all good.

This leaves two options. God is not all powerful or God allows evil to exist for a time.
X snuffing out Y. Z is not all powerful. X allows A. B exists for a time. This script template is like Dallas in the 80s. The "third option" ~ if you're old enough to recall ~ is Dallas season 9 [1985-86] where all 31 episodes were declared to have been a Pam Ewing dream all along in order to make way for whatever the stories were going to be in season 10.

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Originally posted by FMF
X snuffing out Y. Z is not all powerful. X allows A. B exists for a time. This script template is like Dallas in the 80s. The "third option" ~ if you're old enough to recall ~ is Dallas season 9 [1985-86] where all 31 episodes were declared to have been a Pam Ewing dream all along in order to make way for whatever the stories were going to be in season 10.
In a loving relationship each party MUST have the option of rejecting the other, otherwise love does not exist.

Is love evil FMF? I've met some jilted lovers who think so.

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Originally posted by whodey
If God were evil, then he could snuff out all good.

This leaves two options. God is not all powerful or God allows evil to exist for a time.
If God were good, then he could snuff out all evil.
He doesn't. Conclusion?

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Originally posted by whodey
In a loving relationship each party MUST have the option of rejecting the other, otherwise love does not exist.

Is love evil FMF? I've met some jilted lovers who think so.
Use Reply, whodey, rather than Quote & Reply. 😉

edit" or "Reply & Quote" I see the button is called.


Originally posted by FabianFnas
If God were good, then he could snuff out all evil.
He doesn't. Conclusion?
God's Sovereignty coexists with human free will in time (because volitional choice is an essential component of His Plan).

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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
God's Sovereignty coexists with human free will in time (because volitional choice is an essential component of His Plan).
"His Plan" ~ as you represent it here, anyway ~ is one of sadism and extortion.

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Originally posted by wolfgang59
I fulfilled the criteria you gave for worship.
I haven't seen any worship yet! 😠
So there must be additional criteria I have not met.
That is all my original post is asking.
The criteria I gave was in reference to God, not you.

Are you as good as God?

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Originally posted by whodey
If God were evil, then he could snuff out all good.

This leaves two options. God is not all powerful or God allows evil to exist for a time.
Or he is evil, and simply wants to give his believers a false sense of hope (what I call the ultimate evil).

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Originally posted by FabianFnas
If God were good, then he could snuff out all evil.
He doesn't. Conclusion?
If God does not allow rejection, i.e. evil, then love does not exist.

Once God is rejected, he then has the opputunity to immediately snuff them out or wait.

Speaking of waiting, there is another little thread around here about the eternal Lake of Fire. He will snuff it out, but has chosen to give us a period of grace to "save" who he can. Do you prefer immediate judgement?

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