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    14 Apr '14 20:03
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    Theists: You believe in a god. How do you know he is good?

    Atheists: If a god existed; what would be your criteria to ascertain the "goodness" of that deity?

    To both: Even supposing a "good god" exists - why would you want to worship it?
    I know God is good because He said so.

    I worship God because He said so.

    Satisfied?
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    14 Apr '14 22:45
    Originally posted by FabianFnas
    I don't hink you are joking. I think you just are a plain old moron.
    Or perhaps it is your Alzheimer talking. You have the age of that, don't you?
    I know you must be joking, because you can't be serious.
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    15 Apr '14 04:30
    Originally posted by FMF
    wolfgang59's Long-winded way of saying "You found me out - I have been talking crap" was HIS parody paraphrase of YOUR waffly, evasive reply to his question. You are misquoting him. See page 6 Thread 158740.
    BUMP for Grampy Bobby.

    I suppose if you don't retract your misquote of wolfgang59, it will at least make it clear that it was deliberate on your part. 🙂
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    15 Apr '14 04:401 edit
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    I know you must be joking, because you can't be serious.
    When I talk about you and Alzheimer I'm never joking. I've seen to many tragedies. I know the signs.
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    15 Apr '14 05:291 edit
    Originally posted by FMF
    BUMP for Grampy Bobby.

    I suppose if you don't retract your misquote of wolfgang59, it will at least make it clear that it was deliberate on your part. 🙂
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    I'm not here to shoot semantic craps with you or anyone else who hasn't yet become serious about eternal spiritual issues. If and when you do become serious, I'll gladly resume this conversation. Meanwhile, you'll have to find somebody else with whom to roll the frivolous online forum gamesmanship dice. -Bob]

    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    Long-winded way of saying
    "You found me out - I have been talking crap"


    If you cannot debate - leave the forum ..... P L E A S E

    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    Spirituality
    "Debate and general discussion of the supernatural, religion, and the life after." -Russ

    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby Tricky questions (Page 1)
    "You found me out - I have been talking crap" -wolfgang59 "2.15 million livestock could have safely..." New thread noted.

    Note: Verbatim quote.
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    15 Apr '14 05:44
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    I'm not here to shoot semantic craps with you or anyone else who hasn't yet become serious about eternal spiritual issues. If and when you do become serious, I'll gladly resume this conversation. Meanwhile, you'll have to find somebody else with whom to roll the frivolous online forum gamesmanship dice. -Bob] ...[text shortened]... en talking crap" -wolfgang59
    "2.15 million livestock could have safely..." New thread noted.[/b]
    If you don't retract your misquote, people will know it was deliberate. And if people know that it was a deliberate misquote, what will you have achieved?
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    15 Apr '14 05:49
    Originally posted by FabianFnas
    When I talk about you and Alzheimer I'm never joking. I've seen to many tragedies. I know the signs.
    Is calling you a numbnuts one of them?
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    15 Apr '14 06:30
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Is calling you a numbnuts one of them?
    Paranoia and irrational outbursts ... yes.
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    15 Apr '14 06:35
    Originally posted by FabianFnas
    I ask again why it is good to divide the world population in two (and two only) groups.

    In what group do you find muslims?
    In what group do you find buddhists?
    In what group do you find agnostics?
    In what group do I belong?
    FF: the two groups are
    1. Those that believe in a deity or deities.
    2. The others.
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    15 Apr '14 06:38
    Originally posted by josephw
    I know God is good because He said so.

    I worship God because He said so.

    Satisfied?
    I'm good.
    And I want you to worship me.

    OK I have satisfied your two criteria.
    (Where do I post the collection box?)
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    15 Apr '14 06:41
    |I note there are no sensible answers yet ... which is a pity as I thought
    this may have sparked an interesting debate.
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    15 Apr '14 06:49
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    |I note there are no sensible answers yet ... which is a pity as I thought
    this may have sparked an interesting debate.
    You are welcome to make it one.
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    15 Apr '14 07:09
    Originally posted by JS357
    You are welcome to make it one.
    Debate isn't easy when you say you do not care about the
    question posed and instead answer a different question!
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    15 Apr '14 07:392 edits
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    Theists: You believe in a god. How do you know he is good?

    Atheists: If a god existed; what would be your criteria to ascertain the "goodness" of that deity?

    To both: Even supposing a "good god" exists - why would you want to worship it?
    My concept of God simply does not stretch to Him being a being/entity who has such a blatantly folk tale style attribute as demanding to be worshipped. The notion seems preposterous and prosaic. Of course, I don't think God has revealed Himself to anyone; and certainly not to me [I gave Christianity a long run for its money, but its content ~ I came to realize ~ was about people, their imaginations, their culture and their identity, and it wasn't about God]. So I have no 'revelation' to proselytize ~ and nor do the religionist theists here.
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    15 Apr '14 07:46
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    FF: the two groups are
    1. Those that believe in a deity or deities.
    2. The others.
    So, if I now understand it correctly...

    I was wrong when I thought that by "theists" the OP meant "those who thinks like me" and by "atheists" he meant "the the other ones, even if they think they believe in christ and stuff".

    You are a theist if you believe in Kala or Krishna or both, right?
    The ones believing that the sun is god, they are also theists, right?
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