Unintelligent Design

Originally posted by KellyJay
Should read the text before you say things like that, because that isn't true.
Kelly

What did the bible say about the tree of knowlage then?

Originally posted by OdBod
What did the bible say about the tree of knowlage then?

Again, if you don't know what it is your talking about read it, quote the part you
are confused about if you want someone to address your concerns. If you spout
off about an error that isn't there....no one is going to worry about your concerns.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
Should read the text before you say things like that, because that isn't true.
Kelly

Of course its not true.
ITS A STORY

Originally posted by wolfgang59
Of course its not true.
ITS A STORY

People tell stories all the time, that does not mean what they are saying isn't
true.
Kelly

Originally posted by wolfgang59
Of course its not true.
ITS A STORY

Evilution is a STORY. Of course it is not true. Intelligent design is proven by science with facts, so it is true. 😏

http://www.algemeiner.com/2011/08/17/scientists-prove-again-that-life-is-the-result-of-intelligent-design/

Originally posted by KellyJay
People tell stories all the time, that does not mean what they are saying isn't
true.
Kelly

Noun
An account of imaginary or real people and
events told for entertainment: "an adventure story".

Mostly imaginary I feel. Like Goldilocks and the 3 bears.

Originally posted by KellyJay
Again, if you don't know what it is your talking about read it, quote the part you
are confused about if you want someone to address your concerns. If you spout
off about an error that isn't there....no one is going to worry about your concerns.
Kelly

I have read it,and discussed it with our local priest! I was interested to see how you would redefine the text in order to protect your somewhat tenuous position! Man was created innocent ,how can he be creative without knowlage?Go back and read the posts with RJ and you might see the point we were getting at, that in what possible respect did your god make man in his own image?????????

Originally posted by OdBod
I have read it,and discussed it with our local priest! I was interested to see how you would redefine the text in order to protect your somewhat tenuous position! Man was created innocent ,how can he be creative without knowlage?Go back and read the posts with RJ and you might see the point we were getting at, that in what possible respect did your god make man in his own image?????????

With respect,
"Hang on,when man was first created he had no knowlage ,he needed that apple didn't he? Couldn't have been very creative when god made him then!"

This was what I was refering to, your conversations between your priest and
RJ are between you and them. I'll field any question you want to bring to me, but
if you are going to say there is an issue with how scripture is written please
quote it here with the version you are reading it out of.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
With respect,
"Hang on,when man was first created he had no knowlage ,he needed that apple didn't he? Couldn't have been very creative when god made him then!"

This was what I was refering to, your conversations between your priest and
RJ are between you and them. I'll field any question you want to bring to me, but
if you are going to say there is an ...[text shortened]... ripture is written please
quote it here with the version you are reading it out of.
Kelly

The question was directed to RJ not you.Which is why you did not not understand the context in which it was framed.

Originally posted by OdBod
The question was directed to RJ not you.Which is why you did not not understand the context in which it was framed.

I can see that, but at the same time...you worded it poorly because that was
not how it occurred. I've read the full context your questions, they appear to be
from one in my opinion that either has not read the text, or completely didn't
bother to read with the intent of seeing the context of each event, which is what
your saying kind of saying I have an issue with when it came to your question.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
I can see that, but at the same time...you worded it poorly because that was
not how it occurred. I've read the full context your questions, they appear to be
from one in my opinion that either has not read the text, or completely didn't
bother to read with the intent of seeing the context of each event, which is what
your saying kind of saying I have an issue with when it came to your question.
Kelly

You have to remember that RJ is a creationist and therefore takes the bible literally . Discussions with this gentleman are a little different with him as there is far less room for biblical interpretation .

Originally posted by OdBod
Hang on,when man was first created he had no knowlage ,he needed that apple didn't he? Couldn't have been very creative when god made him then!

You do not seem to understand that God told Adam not to eat the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Adam still had creative knowledge as well as knowledge of a language to talk to God and to name those animals that God brought before Adam to see what Adam would call them. Also, Adam still had life without eating the fruit of the tree of life, but not eternal life.

Disobeying God, by eating of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, opened their eyes to the knowledge of evil, selfish desires that were contrary to what is good. Sin was revealed to them for the first time and now they knew the difference between good and evil.

INNOCENT

1. a: free from guilt or sin especially through lack of knowledge of evil : blameless <an innocent child>

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/innocent

Originally posted by OdBod
You have to remember that RJ is a creationist and therefore takes the bible literally . Discussions with this gentleman are a little different with him as there is far less room for biblical interpretation .

I'm a young earth creationist, I also take the Bible very literally which was why
when you misspoke about the story I called you on it. I believe this is a matter
of faith not science, I believe science is completely blind to how everything got
here.
Kelly

Originally posted by wolfgang59
Noun
An account of imaginary or real people and
events told for entertainment: "an adventure story".

Mostly imaginary I feel. Like Goldilocks and the 3 bears.

I can tell you a story about the birth of my kids, that would be a true story...
me relating to you an account of what happen. If you wish to not believe do
so, but stop attempting to say it isn't true for reasons that have nothing to do
with the truth.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
I'm a young earth creationist, I also take the Bible very literally which was why
when you misspoke about the story I called you on it. I believe this is a matter
of faith not science, I believe science is completely blind to how everything got
here.
Kelly

You dismiss science when convenient and when it contradicts your faith based beliefs.Yet when you need medicine ,energy,house,car,Internet ,food etc science becomes important. A person can live without your bible (billions do ) you cannot live without the benefits of science ! With reference to the creative process I would suggest it is far more productive within the entirety of human experience as opposed to just "innocent" imaginings .