Originally posted by LemonJello Let me a pose a very simple (yes, no) question to you:
Is the acceptance of Jesus as my personal savior a necessary condition for my salvation?
[b]Reread my post within the context of my free-will argument.
Better yet, why don't you just regroup and come back another time when you have a conception of Hell that possesses at least some ...[text shortened]... arguments. As such, you have not yet convinced me that such a "context" merits any attention.[/b]
Is the acceptance of Jesus as my personal savior a necessary condition for my salvation?
No.
That would mean that Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Noah, Joshua, Moses, Daniel etc. would not be saved.
Originally posted by dj2becker [b]Is the acceptance of Jesus as my personal savior a necessary condition for my salvation?
No.
That would mean that Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Noah, Joshua, Moses, Daniel etc. would not be saved.[/b]
As I unsuccessfully beseeched you to do with the complete definition of God, would you please state all the necessary and sufficient conditions for salvation?
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Originally posted by Halitose Sigh. You seem to have some misconceptions on the Christian concepts of hell, so I'll c&p from a previous post:
My 2 cents on hell.
There is no doctrine I would rather remove from my Christianity than the doctrine of hell. I know I've alluded many times to free will and I do so here again.
If the acceptance and happiness of a creature (heaven) ...[text shortened]... locked from the inside, where those lost souls enjoy the freedom without God they have demanded.
I like your 2 cent definition. I would add that you do say it is not eternal..the byproduct is ash...the suffering is over.
And God is justified, that is, He is not a sadistic vengeful God who would like "eternal" suffering and pain, as some would suggest.
Am I correct in my assessment of your post?
Originally posted by checkbaiter I like your 2 cent definition. I would add that you do say it is not eternal..the byproduct is ash...the suffering is over.
And God is justified, that is, He is not a sadistic vengeful God who would like "eternal" suffering and pain, as some would suggest.
Am I correct in my assessment of your post?