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Originally posted by Maustrauser
Sorry oh pedant. I should have said "testable, repeatable and falsifiable" scientific theory.
Much better.

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Originally posted by Coletti
Really? Is that a fact? I'm certain there are indeed scientific theories for ghosts. There are scientific theories for the craziest ideas - that doesn't say anything about how reasonable they are. I wouldn't base any belief on the mere existence of a scientific theory - that's treating science as a religion.
I've very interested to hear more of this concept of religion. How would this be like treating science like a religion, and why would this be bad?

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Originally posted by thesonofsaul
I've very interested to hear more of this concept of religion. How would this be like treating science like a religion, and why would this be bad?

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Yeah didn't Kant try to form a rational basis for religion though he was much criticised by his peers.

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Originally posted by thesonofsaul
I've very interested to hear more of this concept of religion. How would this be like treating science like a religion, and why would this be bad?

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Mainly in that if one believed that the mere existence of a "scientific theory" was warrant for belief - then one could believe almost anything - regardless of the merits of the scientific theory itself.

But that is not what Maustrauser meant (and I was being pedantic 😉 ).

Of course, many people do believe things simply because they are told that the claims being made are "scientific." This is a kind of religion in the worse sense - the religion of science. And in some case it's a fuzzy line between believing a "scientific theory" and faith in the religious sense.

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Originally posted by Coletti
[/b] And in some case it's a fuzzy line between believing a "scientific theory" and faith in the religious sense.[/b]
Yeah I agree with this, I was very influenced by the work of Thomas Kuhn studying the major paradigm shifts in science while studying philosophy of science.

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Originally posted by Maustrauser

As there is no scientific theory for ghosts it's rather difficult to find any logical reason for believing that such a phenomenon exists.
Perhaps we should forget about arguing this logically and instead ask the question: has anyone actually seen a ghost/spirit, or other supernatural being with their own eyes?

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Originally posted by Peter X
Perhaps we should forget about arguing this logically and instead ask the question: has anyone actually seen a ghost/spirit, or other supernatural being with their own eyes?
If you see fit to actively abandon logic, I don't believe debate of any worth can be conducted. Instead it will be a lot of...umm...ghost stories.

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Originally posted by Starrman
If you see fit to actively abandon logic, I don't believe debate of any worth can be conducted. Instead it will be a lot of...umm...ghost stories.
Yeah but that is probably more in keeping with the original thread title.

It was a dark dark night and ... well ... something incredibly scary happened, spine tingling [insert your own hackneyed expressions ad infinitum]

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Originally posted by TrollGirl28
So, Who believes in ghosts?
I'm pretty sure I do.
Anyone have a opinion?😉
-TrollGirl28
I don't, I would say those are demons or Satan playing tricks.
Satan is not a guy with horns and a pitch for looking thing, he can disguises himself as an angel of light.

2 Corinthians 11:14 - And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.

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Hey, I didn't wanna get that serious!!
Taz13🙂

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Originally posted by RBHILL
I don't, I would say those are demons or Satan playing tricks.
Satan is not a guy with horns and a pitch for looking thing, he can disguises himself as an angel of light.

2 Corinthians 11:14 - And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.
Can he disguise himself as a young Christian chess player?

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Originally posted by Maustrauser

As there is no scientific theory for ghosts it's rather difficult to find any logical reason for believing that such a phenomenon exists.
the words of a true skeptic. Believing Science can answer any question you throw at it, in my opinion at least, is insane.

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Originally posted by Metamorphosis
Not sure about ghosts, but if you meditate on the picture from this link below, you may possibly see one...

http://www.ripperd.com/ftp/admins/whatswrong.swf

note -- you must look at the picture of the room for at least 45 seconds. This is how long it will take your "third eye" to acclimatize to the vibrations of the possible ghost.

disclaimer -- do not look at this link if you have a heart condition.

😲
Man that scared me!😲

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Originally posted by mc2005
the words of a true skeptic. Believing Science can answer any question you throw at it, in my opinion at least, is insane.
Oh? And why is it insane? The question must be posed in the appropriate manner and if so, then it is likely that science (I don't think it requires capitalizing - it isn't some sort of religion, but simply a logical prescription for extending knowledge) will find you a useful answer.

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Originally posted by mc2005
the words of a true skeptic. Believing Science can answer any question you throw at it, in my opinion at least, is insane.
I believe that believing in anything which cannot be proved scientifically is insane.