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    http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/10/24/vatican-economy-idUKL5E7LO1LS20111024

    Don't get too exited!! This is not a thread about the Catholic church dealing with its pedofile problems. No, instead it appears that the Vatican is becoming increasingly political. The Vatican has called for sweeping reforms of the world economy and the creation of an ethical, global authority to regulate financial markets as demonstrations against corporate greed continues in cities around the globe. Yep, that's right, the Vatican and OWS crowd seems to be standing arm and arm in the same cause. (Nervous yet?)

    I like this quote particularly, "An 18 page document from the Vatican Justice and Peace department (sounds like an extension of Obama's executive branch) said the financial downturn had revealed behavours like "selfishness, collective greed and hoarding of goods on a great scale."

    Collective gred and hoarding on a grand scale?.......cough......has anyone toured the Vatican of late?

    The Vatican then urged its followers to "not be afraid to propose new ideas, even if they might destabilse pre-existing balances of power and prevail over the weakest."

    To cut to the chase, the Vatican is calling for the establishment of "a supranational authority" with worldwide scope and "universal jurisdiction" to guide economic policies and decisions." Such an authority should start with the UN as a reference point but later become independent (like the Federal Reserve I suppose) and be endowed with the power to see to it that developed countries were not allowed to wield "excessive power over the weaker countries".

    I just love it when the Vatican gets political. After all, they have such a great track record at it.......NOT!!

    As for Whodey, I am sending my application in for the new super duper centralized financial world wide dictatorship. I will present them with references showing my super duper superior moral judgement and my super duper concern for "eonomic justice" which will. no doubt, end all world corruption. Once they give me full control we can finally have economic justice on a global scale and usher in the Whodey utopia!!

    Today RHP, tomorrow the world!!!

    Edit: Any OWS protesters who might hold up signs advocating for my position would be greatly appreciated. 😀
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    06 Nov '11 17:27
    Originally posted by whodey
    http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/10/24/vatican-economy-idUKL5E7LO1LS20111024

    Don't get too exited!! This is not a thread about the Catholic church dealing with its pedofile problems. No, instead it appears that the Vatican is becoming increasingly political. The Vatican has called for sweeping reforms of the world economy and the creation of an ethica ...[text shortened]... ight hold up signs advocating for my position would be greatly appreciated. 😀
    Sound like something right out of the Book of Revelation. No one will be
    able to buy or sell without the mark of the beast.
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    06 Nov '11 17:53
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Sound like something right out of the Book of Revelation. No one will be
    able to buy or sell without the mark of the beast.
    from daniel and the king of greece and out of the sea etc to in one day the ships of stood far off mourning the loss
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    Look up Catholic Social Teaching. Lots of left wing extremists in the Church.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_social_teaching
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    06 Nov '11 19:20
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Sound like something right out of the Book of Revelation. No one will be
    able to buy or sell without the mark of the beast.
    What role with the Catholic Church play though? Apparently, they will be their cheerleaders.

    Perhaps they will begin their inquisitions once again to see who practices "social justice". Then they can set up ghettos for those who don't like they did for the Jews at one time.
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    06 Nov '11 20:28
    Originally posted by whodey
    What role with the Catholic Church play though? Apparently, they will be their cheerleaders.

    Perhaps they will begin their inquisitions once again to see who practices "social justice". Then they can set up ghettos for those who don't like they did for the Jews at one time.
    The woman that rides the beast.
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    06 Nov '11 20:56
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    The woman that rides the beast.
    Why is her name Babylon?
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    Originally posted by RJHinds
    The woman that rides the beast.
    I've been doing some reading on the role of the church and the progressive movment. Here is an interesting web site.

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    http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/guideDesc.asp?catid=93&type=issue

    "It's hard to fix a specific starting date for the progressive race to the Great Society", writes Jonah Goldberg, "but a good guess might be 1888, the year when socialist Edward Bellamy's novel "Looking Backward" burst on the American scene." Set in the year 2000, this futuristic book depicts a utopian society run with the hierarchical efficiency of a military battalion. All workers in this idealized world belong to a unified "industrial army" that labors within the confines of an economy controlled by a coterie of central planners who are deemed to be more capable of fostering prosperity and productivity than is a free marketplace. A preacher in the story leads the earthly paradise, while the population at large looks back upon the "age of individualism" with a blend of amusement and derision."

    "Bellany's book became immensely influential, selling hundreds of thousands of copies. It was particularly effective at setting afire the hearts of idealistic young people who were moved by the author's vision of a socialist utopia. All across America, Nationalist Clubs were formed to advocate for the nationalization of industry and the promotion of the brotherhood of humanity. Bellany presented his utopia as a forum for the genuine expression of Jesus Christ's teachings. The author's cousin Francis Bellany, a Baptist minister who penned the "Pledge of Allegence, shared this perspective as he stated forthrightly in his sermon titled "Jesus is a Socialist".

    By the turn of the 20th century, many intellectuals had wedded this socialist-utopian vision with the psychological confidence spawned by the technological and scientific advances of the age. People saw that they clearly lived in an era of progress, where, for the first time in human history, the darkness of night had been overcome by the electric light; where the need for efficient, safe transportation had been met by the automobile; and where the chains of gravity had been broken by the airplane. The ability of scientific ingenuity and expertise to master the phsical world, suggested that similar mastery might be achievable in the realms of politics and economics, i.e., that an intellectual elite might be able to assess society's defects and prescribe appropriate remedies. That belief was part and parcel of the progressive vision that flourished in America from the 1890's through the 1920's."

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    And there you have it. Many Christians at the turn of the 20th century got caught up in the idea that mankind could single handidly usher in a utopia via the progressive vision. It then hit a brick wall during WW1 but then rekindled itself with FDR's New Deal. Despite this rebirth, the 20th century was anything but a utopia as it was the most violent in human history.

    I find it interesting that at the turn of the 20th century the thought was that humanity was on the verge of a utopia of some kind and that the sky was the limit. However, at the turn of the 21rst century, an entirely different feeling is in the air. It is one of fear of what the future holds. Most futuristic films, for example, are filled with doom and gloom of what humanity will find itself this next century. Of course, the irony here is that this doom and gloom is after an entire century of progressive policy and idealism.

    And this is what we here today from the Catholic church. Just give more centralized power to the elites and they will save us all from ourselves. It's almost as if they have had blinders on for the last century.
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    06 Nov '11 21:25
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Why is her name Babylon?
    Babylon in the Book of Revelation refers to the institution of multinational corporations that are more powerful than any individual secular government.
    The whore rides the beast and controls it in some way, but it is not loyal
    to the truth of God and its loyality and services can be bought for a price.
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    06 Nov '11 21:49
    Downright diabolical!!!!

    Wow.
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    Originally posted by sumydid
    Downright diabolical!!!!

    Wow.
    You ain't seen noth'in yet!!!

    Mwhahahahaha. Just wait till they appoint a worldwide economic dicatotorship!! 😲

    Of course, you only hope is to nominate me, Whodey, for the job because I have a super duper moral character that can help shepherd the flock we call humanity. All those who come in my name are false Whodey's who have come to steal and plunder!!!

    Just out of curiosity, can I put you down as a reference on my application?
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    06 Nov '11 21:58
    Originally posted by whodey
    You ain't seen noth'in yet!!!

    Mwhahahahaha. Just wait till they appoint a worldwide economic dicatotorship!! 😲

    Of course, you only hope is to nominate me, Whodey, for the job because I have a super duper moral character that can help shepherd the flock we call humanity. All those who come in my name are false Whodey's who have come to steal and plunder!!!
    You've got my vote!!!

    I can see the bumper stickers now:

    WWWD?
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    06 Nov '11 22:01
    Originally posted by sumydid
    You've got my vote!!!

    I can see the bumper stickers now:

    WWWD?
    Thanks for your support!!

    But I have to say, part of me thinks the job is already spoken for. So if I don't get the job it is in no way a reflection of the strength of your recomendation and sway.
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    Congrats to your Saints by the way. And I was glad to see that my Falcons won by a respectable margin and didn't play down to the Colts' level.
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    06 Nov '11 22:07
    Originally posted by whodey
    http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/10/24/vatican-economy-idUKL5E7LO1LS20111024

    Don't get too exited!! This is not a thread about the Catholic church dealing with its pedofile problems. No, instead it appears that the Vatican is becoming increasingly political. The Vatican has called for sweeping reforms of the world economy and the creation of an ethica ...[text shortened]... ight hold up signs advocating for my position would be greatly appreciated. 😀
    The Church's concern for social justice is the only thing that continues to justify their existence. Indeed, it is the primary thing that they should be concerning themselves with.
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