02 Sep 17
Originally posted by @dj2beckerSonship has just revealed (on the previous page to the post im replying to) that he was a a Christian, then an ex christian, then a Christian again. You don't seem to be at all interested in correlating any spiritual, philosophical or cognitive dynamics between his experiences and FMFs. Why is that?
Do you believe all people turn into robots when they are exposed to supernatural ideas and suddenly loose the ability to weigh up evidence, compare ideas and decide what is credible and what is not? Or do you think this braindead experience was unique to you?
02 Sep 17
Originally posted by @divegeesterKudos to sonship if he answers this head on.
So you were a Christian, then you weren't, and now you are again.
Were you saved, then unsaved and then saved again?
02 Sep 17
Originally posted by @dj2beckerFMF has claimed no such thing, you are just making it up, apparently because you are unable to process the honest and forthright account he has given. It's quite interesting how you behave at times.
You are the one claiming to have been a 'robot' with regards to your religious beliefs not me. If you have a better more accurate word than 'robot' to describe a person devoid of free will feel free to share it.
02 Sep 17
Originally posted by @dj2beckerRobot - check.
Do you now suddenly have the ability to decide what is credible and what isn't? Or are you still in a comatose state?
Braindead - check.
Comatose - check.
02 Sep 17
Originally posted by @dj2beckerRobots have nothing to do with the hyper-complexities of a human being either having or not having free will. You seem to think you are on to something with this silly rhetoric.
Do you deny that you had no free will and that a robot in essence has no free will? If not what is your objection to my use of the word 'robot'?
Originally posted by @divegeesterSo are you saying he did have the ability to decide what was credible and what wasn't when he was a Christian?
FMF has claimed no such thing, you are just making it up, apparently because you are unable to process the honest and forthright account he has given. It's quite interesting how you behave at times.
02 Sep 17
Originally posted by @dj2beckerI believe you are trolling.
Interesting that you dodged the question.
If you move the contribution you are making to this conversation away from that, and if you ask me things that I have not addressed before in posts addressed to you, I will respond.
Originally posted by @divegeesterDid FMF have free will as a Christian? No. Do robots have free will? No.
Robots have nothing to do with the hyper-complexities of a human being either having or not having free will. You seem to think you are on to something with this silly rhetoric.
You are welcome to ignore the obvious for obvious reasons.
02 Sep 17
Originally posted by @fmfYou have never answered the question I asked you and we both know exactly why you refuse to answer it.
I believe you are trolling.
If you move the contribution you are making to this conversation away from that, and if you ask me things that I have not addressed before in posts addressed to you, I will respond.
Originally posted by @dj2beckerNo I'm saying that FMF has not claimed to be a robot and that you are just making it up, apparently because you are unable to process the honest and forthright account he has given. I am also saying that it is quite interesting how you behave at times.
So are you saying he did have the ability to decide what was credible and what wasn't when he was a Christian?
02 Sep 17
Originally posted by @dj2beckerHow would I know whether of not someone who I didn't know at the time had free will years ago or not?
Did FMF have free will as a Christian? No. Do robots have free will? No.
You are welcome to ignore the obvious for obvious reasons.
Originally posted by @dj2beckerI have in the past explained exactly what role free will played in my loss of faith and now, in this OP, I have explained exactly what effect strong life-affecting faith in Jesus had on the notion of free will. I am not going to say that I am a robot, as you seem to want me to; I am not going to say I was and am braindead, as you seem to want me to. And I am not going to say I am comatose. Your conversational gambits are boring.
You have never answered the question I asked you and we both know exactly why you refuse to answer it.