Originally posted by @dj2beckerWhat ability to decide what was credible and what wasn't do you claim to have had during the 24 years of brainwashing and psychological abuse you endured in your cult?
As far as I can tell humans have the ability to reason even about supernatural things and they have the ability to decide what is credible and what isn't. Do you have that ability or not? Because I certainly believe I do.
Originally posted by @dj2beckerSo you are claiming that you did have the ability to decide what was credible and what was not credible during those 24 years and that you had the free will to leave but did not do so until you were 24 years old?
If I had no free will I would still be there and would not have decided to leave would I?
Originally posted by @fmfI left as soon as I had finished my studies and was self sufficient. It was a decision I made to stay on till I had the means to leave. Initially I accepted things blindly due to peer pressure but I soon realizes that things were amiss when I grew older and when I started to ask questions.
So you are claiming that you did have the ability to decide what was credible and what was not credible [b]during those 24 years and that you had the free will to leave but did not do so until you were 24 years old?[/b]
Originally posted by @dj2beckerIf I may ask, for how many years were you pretending that everything was morally sound and credible about the cult?
I left as soon as I had finished my studies and was self sufficient.
Originally posted by @sonshipIt seems as if your definition of "to preach" includes people merely discussing things on a debate forum where they disagree with each other. That seems strangely broad. Why not just use the verbs "to discuss" or "to disagree"?
> You and other unbelievers do teach things.
> Unbelievers and skeptics here do preach.
> Your philosophies often are put out as better ones to follow than Christian faith.
> You come to advertize a better way of thinking and living.
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-Removed-It's an interesting question. A couple of years ago, Grampy Bobby assured me that I was "saved" - because I had believed in Jesus - belief 'for an instant' would have been enough, apparently, never mind 25+ adult years of it - and, he assured me, this "salvation" was irrevocable - even with all manner of "sins" being committed, and even, in my case, despite my loss of faith.
He repeated this claim (about my supposed heaven-bound immortal destiny) twice, danced around a few of my questions about it for a couple of days, and then perhaps thought better of the assurance he had given in view of how he blanked it out thereafter.
None of His fellow Christians contradicted him.
It was certainly an interesting bit of theology ~ meaningless and of no consequence to me, of course ~ but interesting all the same.