Originally posted by divegeester
There is no "claptrap in the Bible" and I dislike the implication that that was what I said.
Oh, I'm sorry. Forgive me please.
Probably you didn't like it in the same way that I didn't particularly care for the matter being called "claptrap" to begin with.
No offense was meant. Can we overlook it and see what else in my post you might find useful ? As you might be able to see, it is the New Testament which puts some importance to the discerning of soul from spirit.
Soul is "self." And if we cannot discern the distinction between our self and the Christ living within us, we will have difficulty in the Christian life.
The Christians have to become more and more aware of the spirit. This awareness should deepen. This discernment should become more and more clear to the Christians.
I do not say it is always so cut and dry. But that awareness must deepen over time. We must learn to set our mind on the spirit where the Spirit of Jesus is.
" ... the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the spirit is life and peace." (Rom. 8:6)
The sense of
"life and peace" is a vital indicator of our being in the presence of the indwelling Lord.
"The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God." (Rom. 8:16)
Here we have
the Spirit Himself as the Holy Spirit and we have
"our spirit". And the Holy Spirit bears joint witness within to the Christian's most intimate life union with God so as to be one of the children of God.
Yet previously it talked about the believer setting his MIND on the spirit. So if the mind of man can be set on the spirit of man, that means that the mind is something distinct. That means that the SOUL (which includes MIND, EMOTION, and WILL) is distinct from the human spirit upon which the mind is SET.
And the spirit upon which the mind is to be set, is in a life union with the Holy Spirit from the new birth. How would we detect that we are the children of God unless we set the mind of the soul upon the human spirit where the human spirit and the Holy Spirit bear joint witness ?
I believe that the regenerated human spirit is also virtually
"the inner man". And the
"inner man" is a realm into which Paul prayed that the Christians would be strengthened:
"That He [the Father] would grant you, according to the riches of His glory, to be strengthened with power into the inner man." (Eph. 3:16)
Here some distinction matters also, between soul and spirit.
Romans 8:6 exhorted the believer to set the mind on the spirit to experience life and peace. And
Ephesians 3:16 says the believers need to be strengthened with power into that realm of the
"inner man".
These two verses are very closely related. We not only need to turn the mind to set it upon the regenerated spirit. We need to be energized and strengthened to remain in that sphere. That is we need to abide in that realm of the
"inner man" as a way of living.