Originally posted by sonhouse Ah, your former hero is now a villain. Interesting. When he was spouting creationism as if there were actual science in it you loved him. Now that he denounced the idea there was a science called creationism, you don't give him the time of day.
You make no sense. Creationism is no more science than atheism or Darwinism. For your information evolution or evilution is not science either. They are only religious ideas. Creationism is the only one that is true.
Originally posted by RJHinds Evilution theory can not be used to make a testable prediction about changing one kind of animal into another. It has never happened. However, intelligent design theory is the only theory to be used that has ever produced any testable prediction. Without intelligence, it ain't going to happen.
Evolution can indeed make testable predictions.
And has done.
They were all tested, and found to be true.
The reason you think that evolution makes no predictions is because you are
wilfully and determinedly ignorant of what Biological Evolution by natural selection
actually is.
ID has also made some testable predictions. It failed the tests.
ID IS also a religious idea, Evolution isn't.
And it doesn't how many times morons like you claim otherwise that is never going to change.
Originally posted by googlefudge Evolution can indeed make testable predictions.
And has done.
They were all tested, and found to be true.
The reason you think that evolution makes no predictions is because you are
wilfully and determinedly ignorant of what Biological Evolution by natural selection
actually is.
ID has also made some testable predictions. It failed the te ...[text shortened]...
And it doesn't how many times morons like you claim otherwise that is never going to change.
Maybe morons, like me, understand more than the infidels, like you, think we do.
Atheism is based on the belief of pure human nature with no spirituality or divine structure in place only nature and materialistic man.It is human nature to only survive for themselves and to not help others and if you have a system which is based in the belief of materialism and humanism/survival it is a surprise when atheists help others survive rather than themselves.
Originally posted by houdini3000 Atheism is based on the belief of pure human nature with no spirituality or divine structure in place only nature and materialistic man.It is human nature to only survive for themselves and to not help others and if you have a system which is based in the belief of materialism and humanism/survival it is a surprise when atheists help others survive rather than themselves.
That is 100% BS. Humans have been cooperating for tens of thousands of years, altruism runs deep in humanity.
You make the case that it is religion and religion alone that gives us morality but that is not true.
Originally posted by houdini3000 Give examples and from there we can discuss please.
Look at the post called Gobekli Tepe. 12,000 years ago before agriculture, before Stonhenge, before the pyramids, thousands of years before all that, they had a nice sized city and made what appear to be religious monuments. You don't get that without extensive cooperation amongst hundreds of people. They were hunter gatherers who buried their dead and built monuments it would take quite a bit of effort for US to build much less anyone around 12,000 years ago. They did a ground penetrating radar study and found some monuments like the big ones but maybe 3,000 years earlier than that.
That is long time cooperation, common goals and the like. That is not a society of every man for himself.
Originally posted by sonhouse Look at the post called Gobekli Tepe. 12,000 years ago before agriculture, before Stonhenge, before the pyramids, thousands of years before all that, they had a nice sized city and made what appear to be religious monuments. You don't get that without extensive cooperation amongst hundreds of people. They were hunter gatherers who buried their dead and buil ...[text shortened]... ong time cooperation, common goals and the like. That is not a society of every man for himself.
This dating is nothing more than an archaeological hat trick. There are cities mentioned in Genesis and that was only about 6000 years ago according to the chronology. That was before Stonehenge and the pyramids too. Agriculture began with Adam and Eve and was called tilling the ground and gardening back then.
Originally posted by houdini3000 Atheism is based on the belief of pure human nature with no spirituality or divine structure in place only nature and materialistic man.It is human nature to only survive for themselves and to not help others and if you have a system which is based in the belief of materialism and humanism/survival it is a surprise when atheists help others survive rather than themselves.
No, Atheism is based on the lack of evidence for a deity, nothing more.
Originally posted by houdini3000 Atheism is based on the belief of pure human nature with no spirituality or divine structure in place only nature and materialistic man.It is human nature to only survive for themselves and to not help others and if you have a system which is based in the belief of materialism and humanism/survival it is a surprise when atheists help others survive rather than themselves.
As you evidently know nothing about the subject...
Why don't you ask the atheists here about atheism, and why we believe
what we believe or not believe... ect.
Instead of making statements about a group you don't understand TO THAT
GROUP...
We made up your god so get over it.
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