Originally posted by sonship
You'll notice that Rajk999 will try very hard to pull EVERY thread (it seems that he has with me) to be about the SAME discussion.

Genuine Christians? You are gradually changing your tune.
Some time ago it was all Christians.
So there are Christians who are not genuine.
I see my posts are changing you.

A few [b] years ...[text shortened]... ... and, let everyone who names the name of the Lord depart from unrighteousness." [/b] [/quote][/b]

You are such a lying deceitful snake sonship.

Originally posted by divegeester

" For the Lamb who is in the midst of the throne will shepherd them and guide them to springs of waters of life;

and God will wipe away every tear from their eyes." (Rev. 7:16,17)

Originally posted by Rajk999
You are such a lying deceitful snake sonship.

Originally posted by sonship
"We will be like Him"
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...and so on and so forth...

I don't know if Rajk999 is mad with me because i used the phrase "Genuine Christian".

This is nothing to be enraged with me about. If the New Testament did not talk about the wheat and the tares then there would be no need for the usage of such a phrase as "Genuine Christian".

If the New Testament did not encourage us that "The Lord knows those who are His" the perhaps there would be no cause to use such a phrase as "Genuine Christian".

At any rate I have asked Rajk999 to specifically point out the LIE I told by which he accuses me of being a liar. Let's see what he comes up with to back up his accusation.

Originally posted by divegeester

I remember certain ministers from my youth who use to preach using this technique of an almost mantra or tantric like repeat of a key phrase which they wanted the congration to remember. I didn't like it the sound of it then and I've not liked the technique since.

I'm sure your inderlying message is well intended,

but I find you to be way to self-absorbed,

somewhat pseudo-mystic in your approach and as I've said before, more than a little strange in your beliefs.

If that makes me a bad person in your eyes and in danger of your eternal suffering...then so be it. It's not Christ I reject, it's you. Too much of you chap.

Psalm 136 repeats over and over again after every line practically that God mercy endures forever and ever.

Divegeester likes that kind of repetition.
No complaint of its pseudo mystic style there because it proclaims what he is interested in proclaiming.

I write a few times "We will be like Him" which is really the result of His mercy being forever and ever, and I'm self absorbed and pseudo mystical.

Originally posted by divegeester
"We will be like Him"
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"We will be like Him"
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Psalm 136
1 Give thanks to the Lord, for he is good.
His love endures forever.
2 Give thanks to the God of gods.
His love endures forever.
3 Give thanks to the Lord of lords:
His love endures forever.
4 to him who alone does great wonders,
His love endures forever.
5 who by his understanding made the heavens,
His love endures forever.
6 who spread out the earth upon the waters,
His love endures forever.
7 who made the great lights—
His love endures forever.
8 the sun to govern the day,
His love endures forever.
9 the moon and stars to govern the night;
His love endures forever.
10 to him who struck down the firstborn of Egypt
His love endures forever.
11 and brought Israel out from among them
His love endures forever.
12 with a mighty hand and outstretched arm;
His love endures forever.
13 to him who divided the Red Sea[a] asunder
His love endures forever.
14 and brought Israel through the midst of it,
His love endures forever.

Originally posted by Rajk999

[b]You are such a lying deceitful snake sonship.

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If I quote Matthew 25:41,46 as part of my belief or Revelation 20:10,15 which are by no means the only verses I talk about, then you say I am different from God in character.

But unless God changes, my destiny is to see everything as He Himself sees them in terms of true and right judgment.

Concerning your most prominent criticisms of me I think there are only a few alternatives for you:

1.) Prove that Jesus didn't speak certain things the New Testament says He spoke.

2.) Prove that an interpretation of eternal suffering is wrong and should be replaced by annihilation into non-existence.

3.) Prove that God will change by the time we all who have believed into Christ become like Him.

Originally posted by sonship

[b] " Beloved, now we are children of God, and it has not yet been manifested what we will be. We know that if He is manifested, we will be like Him because we will see Him even as He is." (1 John 3:2)

In eternity we will be like Christ.
We will have His attitudes and tastes and feeling.
What He loves we will love.
What He hates w ...[text shortened]... ved person who receives the life of God mingled into his life.

"We will be like Him." [/b]

Originally posted by divegeester


I'm sure your inderlying message is well intended, but I find you to be way to self-absorb our eternal suffering...then so be it. It's not Christ I reject, it's you. Too much of you chap.[/b]

If that makes me a bad person in your eyes and in danger of your eternal suffering...then so be it. It's not Christ I reject, it's you. Too much of you chap.

Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
The author of 1 john goes on to say what he had in mind when he said, "we shall be like Him".

1 John 3
4Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness. 5But you know that he appeared so that he might take away our sins. And in him is no sin. 6[b]No one who lives in him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or ...[text shortened]... rother and sister.

Seems that somehow you've skipped exactly what's required to "be like Him"

Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
[b]The author of 1 john goes on to say what he had in mind when he said, "we shall be like Him".

1 John 3
4Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness. 5But you know that he appeared so that he might take away our sins. And in him is no sin. 6No one who lives in him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him.
7Dear children, do not let anyone lead you astray. The one who does what is right is righteous, just as he is righteous. 8The one who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work. 9No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God. 10This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not God’s child, nor is anyone who does not love their brother and sister.

Seems that somehow you've skipped exactly what's required to "be like Him"[/b]

" And everyone who has this hope set on Him purifies himself even as He is pure." (v.3)

To receive more and more of the Holy Spirit to saturate your soul, this purifies the man or woman.

Originally posted by Rajk999
Lol .. just repeat it over and over and you will be like Jesus Christ.
Truly a doctrine of simpletons.