1. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    22 Apr '13 23:391 edit
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    Recently we had a summation of the Bibles message, you know, the earth will become a paradise, people will live in harmony forever etc etc i wonder of our atheist friends can provide a similar summation of their message,
    I do not believe in a god or gods.
    but it was not atheism which taught me that.

    I think you are putting the cart before the horse
    if you believe atheism teaches anyone anything.
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    23 Apr '13 00:12
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    here is the statement again,

    Atheism isn't a religion, and therefore cannot have 'teachings'.

    which presupposes that in order to have a teaching one must of necessity be a religion, which is rather strange, for as far as i am aware, many disciplines have teachings and are not in the least remotely religious.
    He said that because of his arrogance. He even thinks he is a programmer. A programmer of what he fails to say, but it must not be computers.
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    23 Apr '13 00:15
    Originally posted by johnnylongwoody
    If one analyzes facts and then comes up with valid conclusions,
    then you have arrived at solutions or answers.

    It doesn't always involve teachings.

    Sometimes teachings can suggest dogma.

    There is nothing dogmatic about analyzing a situation
    and with the proper information coming up with facts
    and solutions.

    Lawyers do it all the time.

    So do scientists and medical experts.
    However, that is not true of atheists.
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    23 Apr '13 00:19
    Originally posted by SwissGambit
    There are no gods.

    ~~THE END~~
    But there is a God without end.
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    23 Apr '13 00:26
    Originally posted by Proper Knob
    The summary of my atheism - I don't believe in God(s).
    But a true atheist says there is no God or gods. So are you speaking of your religious belief?
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    23 Apr '13 00:291 edit
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    [b]I do not believe in a god or gods.
    but it was not atheism which taught me that.

    I think you are putting the cart before the horse
    if you believe atheism teaches anyone anything.[/b]
    I bet you believe Christianity taught you that, right?

    On second thought, it was probably your atheist science teacher in school. Remember the one that taught you about evilution?
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    23 Apr '13 00:57
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    hmm, that sounds suspiciously to me like unobserved phenomena!
    Oxymoron intentional? 🙂
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    23 Apr '13 02:02
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    here is the statement again,

    Atheism isn't a religion, and therefore cannot have 'teachings'.

    which presupposes that in order to have a teaching one must of necessity be a religion, which is rather strange, for as far as i am aware, many disciplines have teachings and are not in the least remotely religious.
    That's not what it presupposes at all, which I'm sure you're well aware of. One can get 'teachings' from non-religious sources that are not atheism (which is what all atheists do).
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    23 Apr '13 02:51
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    I bet you believe Christianity taught you that, right?

    On second thought, it was probably your atheist science teacher in school. Remember the one that taught you about evilution?
    Neither Christianity nor a school science teacher taught me not to believe in gods.

    I worked it out myself by age 11.
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    23 Apr '13 06:15
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    Neither Christianity nor a school science teacher taught me not to believe in gods.

    I worked it out myself by age 11.
    The fool has said in his heart,
    “There is no God.”
    They are corrupt,
    They have done abominable works,
    There is none who does good.

    (Psalm 14:1 NKJV)

    There you go Mr. smarty pants.
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    23 Apr '13 06:35
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    here is the statement again,

    Atheism isn't a religion, and therefore cannot have 'teachings'.

    which presupposes that in order to have a teaching one must of necessity be a religion, which is rather strange, for as far as i am aware, many disciplines have teachings and are not in the least remotely religious.
    Not what I said, or at least not what I intended. Maybe I wasn't clear. Notice that I gave some personal teachings, did you assume that I am a religion?
    To clarify what I meant, atheism isn't a religion. Its a statement that someone doesn't hold beliefs in God. As such, it doesn't make sense to ask for atheisms teachings. It is perfectly possible for individuals or philosophies or groups etc to have teachings without being religions.
    Now, would you care to tell us what Dwarfism really teaches?
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    23 Apr '13 07:27
    Originally posted by SwissGambit
    Oxymoron intentional? 🙂
    busted!
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    23 Apr '13 07:28
    Originally posted by rwingett
    That's not what it presupposes at all, which I'm sure you're well aware of. One can get 'teachings' from non-religious sources that are not atheism (which is what all atheists do).
    ouch, busted again!
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    23 Apr '13 07:29
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    Not what I said, or at least not what I intended. Maybe I wasn't clear. Notice that I gave some personal teachings, did you assume that I am a religion?
    To clarify what I meant, atheism isn't a religion. Its a statement that someone doesn't hold beliefs in God. As such, it doesn't make sense to ask for atheisms teachings. It is perfectly possible for ind ...[text shortened]... hings without being religions.
    Now, would you care to tell us what Dwarfism really teaches?
    But the atheist "believes" in that statement that there is no God. The atheist has religious doctrines he believes in and the main ones to support their religious belief is scientism and evilution.
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    23 Apr '13 07:312 edits
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    Not what I said, or at least not what I intended. Maybe I wasn't clear. Notice that I gave some personal teachings, did you assume that I am a religion?
    To clarify what I meant, atheism isn't a religion. Its a statement that someone doesn't hold beliefs in God. As such, it doesn't make sense to ask for atheisms teachings. It is perfectly possible for ind ...[text shortened]... hings without being religions.
    Now, would you care to tell us what Dwarfism really teaches?
    You are not making any sense, you say you have no teachings because you are not a religion and then profess to state that there are no Gods, is this not a teaching, cannot it not be explained on a rational basis and expounded to others? Or is it merely on the basis that its a personal philosophy that it qualifies as a non teaching, which I doubt because others have expressed suspiciously similar sentiments.
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