-Removed-Good points, but I would take it a step further. FMF has just described that he believes Jesus existed, as a Jewish Rabbi 'only', with no divinity at all. Technically then, could he claim to be a Christian? If he followed the principles and teachings of the 'Jesus' he believed existed?
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Originally posted by chaney3We now live in a world where a man can call himself a woman and go into lady's
So what you are suggesting is that even if a person does NOT believe that Jesus even existed, they still call themselves a Christian because they are following his teachings?
I would assume that most Christians who actually believe in Jesus (whether human or God) would disagree with that philosophy?
bathrooms and locker rooms. Do you think what people call themselves is meaningful in
reality or does reality have something to say about what everything is or is not? Can I call
myself an Eagle and then fly to the mountain tops, or am I really limited to what I truly am?
If being a Christian is just a word applied without anything outside of verbiage of the label
I choose than anything or one can be a Christian. If being a Christian has meaning toward
God, than what we say or think about the term loses out to what God accepts or rejects.
Originally posted by KellyJayJohn 3:16 For God so loved the world He gave His only begotten Son, and whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life.
We now live in a world where a man can call himself a woman and go into lady's
bathrooms and locker rooms. Do you think what people call themselves is meaningful in
reality or does reality have something to say about what everything is or is not? Can I call
myself an Eagle and then fly to the mountain tops, or am I really limited to what I truly am?
I ...[text shortened]... toward
God, than what we say or think about the term loses out to what God accepts or rejects.
"whoever believes in Him".......those 4 words seem to have unlimited amounts of meanings to the world, and the criteria to claim oneself a Christian seems to be different depending on who you speak to.
Originally posted by chaney3yes, the happy clappy tambourine playing brigade claim that Gods love is unconditional but from the scripture that you cite its clear that its dependent upon putting faith in Jesus.
John 3:16 For God so loved the world He gave His only begotten Son, and whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life.
"whoever believes in Him".......those 4 words seem to have unlimited amounts of meanings to the world, and the criteria to claim oneself a Christian seems to be different depending on who you speak to.
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-Removed-I will suit myself and there have been many threads on the meaning of the term 'Mighty God' and how it differs from 'Almighty God' and also the scriptural reasons for Jesus being considered an archangel or messenger of God, its not my fault you have not understood a single one of them. Perhaps you are too arrogant or blinded by prejudice. Who can say?
Originally posted by chaney3No. I don't think so, at all. I think a "Christian" has to believe that Jesus "saves" people in a supernatural way. And I don't. So I cannot and do not claim to be a Christian.
FMF has just described that he believes Jesus existed, as a Jewish Rabbi 'only', with no divinity at all. Technically then, could he claim to be a Christian? If he followed the principles and teachings of the 'Jesus' he believed existed?
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-Removed-No you neither understand the term 'god' nor understand how it is used in the Bible, infact the Bible terms human judges as 'gods', it terms Satan a 'god' of the system, this again has been explained to you countless times with not a shred of success. Actually Jesus or rather Michael is termed an Archangel, not simply an angel as you have erroneously assumed and if you cannot get that correct its pointless battling against your ignorance. Perhaps if you were not so self assuming it may help you, who can say?