Originally posted by Halitose The only way you can get a ethical code without some sort of theology, is to piggyback off a culture that does.
What ethical/theologic codes did the Babylonians piggy back theirs from ? The Eygptians ? The Chinese ? The Aztecs and other great Central American civilizations ? How about Aborigional Austrailians ?
And can you tell me the theologies of these civilizations arise independently from the evolution of their morals and ethics ? Did they develope hand in hand ? If not , and there has to be a devine set of laws/codes which man models his ethics/morals after first ; then it might imply that the gods they believed in truely existed and handed them their ethics much like the OT god handed Moses the 10 commandments . So are you saying that the gods of these people are true and just as real as Jehovah ?
Originally posted by Moldy Crow What ethical/theologic codes did the Babylonians piggy back theirs from ? The Eygptians ? The Chinese ? The Aztecs and other great Central American civilizations ? How about Aborigional Austrailians ?
And can you tell me the theologies of these civilizations arise independently from the evolution of their morals and ethics ? Did they develope hand in h ...[text shortened]... dments . So are you saying that the gods of these people are true and just as real as Jehovah ?
Are you talking about the Babylonian Code of Hammurabi. This is merely a set of 282 rules written on the wall by the Babylonian king Hammurabi. It was a list of crimes with their associated punishments. This is merely law not a moral or ethical code to live by...
Originally posted by Halitose Are you talking about the Babylonian Code of Hammurabi. This is merely a set of 282 rules written on the wall by the Babylonian king Hammurabi. It was a list of crimes with their associated punishments. This is merely law not a moral or ethical code to live by...
They evidently had a moral code and ethics or why else would they have laws ? Isn't having a reflection of the morals of a society ? If they branded theft a crime , and had punnishment for it , would that not imply that they thought theft was bad ? This is a value judgement (deciding what is right and wrong ). This implies values , a sense of morality , and ethics does it not ? Where did these come from ? Did their gods appear to a directionless barbaric people , and give them a set of devine principles that their moral compass was set to ?
Originally posted by Moldy Crow They evidently had a moral code and ethics or why else would they have laws ? Isn't having a reflection of the morals of a society ? If they branded theft a crime , and had punnishment for it , would that not imply that they thought the ...[text shortened]... a set of devine principles that their moral compass was set to ?
Have you ever thought of the possibility that Adam and Eve came before the Babylonians? So you don't have to be a genius to figure out that the Babylonians were descendants of Adam and Eve.
They ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
Originally posted by dj2becker Have you ever thought of the possibility that Adam and Eve came before the Babylonians? So you don't have to be a genius to figure out that the Babylonians were descendants of Adam and Eve.
They ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
I think it's more like : If you do believe that the Babylonians are decended from a and e , chances are you are definitely not a genius . This insult to you should be on a different thread , though . The grown ups are having a conversation here , dj .
Originally posted by Moldy Crow I think it's more like : If you do believe that the Babylonians are decended from a and e , chances are you are definitely not a genius . This insult to you should be on a different thread , though . The grown ups are having a conversation here , dj .
So you think the Babylonians all jumped out of a mud-puddle filled with chemical soup?
Originally posted by dj2becker Have you ever thought of the possibility that Adam and Eve came before the Babylonians? So you don't have to be a genius to figure out that the Babylonians were descendants of Adam and Eve.
They ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
The serpent's name was Lilith. She was Adam's first wife, and she became the first vampire.
Originally posted by Wulebgr Originally posted by Wulebgr [b]The serpent's name was Lilith. She was Adam's first wife, and she became the first vampire.
Originally posted by Halitose By what moral or ethical code is that decided, if there is no god? Why would murder be wrong? Why would not having murdered be considered good?
because we determain socioty's morals not by god but by what serves the socioty
What happens when we die?
14 Jul '05 19:19
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