I haven't had enough conversations with you to decide whether or whether not you are a theist and lack the inclnation to do any research on the matter 🙂 but I can agree to an extent with your OP. (I don't yet know if there is a god at all however, and have little reason to invoke one!)
From my perspective, I see no reason to compare any two religions and find that one is more plausible than the other. However, I'm quite sure that if there is a god (big *if* btw), and Jesus existed then despite the suggestion that he may have been wise and better informed than his peers he has been venerated to a status he neither deserves nor would have wanted by primitive folk enthralled by his charisma.
I find any human (or creature) pretentious to define an entity which by definition lies outside its ability to perceive in any way other than its supposed manifestation in our dimensions; hence I am quite sure that all religions are indeed wrong.
Originally posted by Agerg I haven't had enough conversations with you to decide whether or whether not you are a theist and lack the inclnation to do any research on the matter 🙂 but I can agree to an extent with your OP. (I don't yet know if there is a god at all however, and have little reason to invoke one!)
From my perspective, I see no reason to compare any two religions and f ...[text shortened]... d manifestation in our dimensions; hence I am quite sure that all religions are indeed wrong.
Although Buddhism is classified as a religion, I am not at all convinced it is wrong; at least it isn't wrong in the same way theistic religions are wrong.
I think Buddhist philosophy makes a lot of valid points; the truth of its message as a religion I leave to others.
I know I have benefited greatly from insight meditation and the Buddhist perspective on many of life's greatest challenges, such as coping with the death of one's child.
You don't have to join up, be a card carrying Buddhist, etc. But you can take advantage of what this ancient discipline has to offer. I especially like the fact that nothing I have learned or heard in Buddhism conflicts in the least with the scientific rationalism I learned from my father.
Originally posted by PsychoPawn If all religions were wrong then Jesus wasn't divine at all.
but he was a wonderful guy -- and think of all the people who would lose their authority if we accepted the idea that Jesus was just a man, like the Buddha, with some interesting ideas.
I don't believe that the question of if we are wrong is the right one to be asking.
What matter does it make if the existence of religion is false? The key factor to any religion is the way of life. If we put aside the fact that there is a God, and that Jesus is the Saviour of man, the ideas and thoughts that he puts forward are nonetheless still valid.
I don't think we should be worrying about if we got the message from God wrong, as much as simply living our life in a proper way. Even if Jesus wasn't the saviour, the ideaology that he put forward would, if everyone abided by it, create a much better society. If we look at it this way, then religion isn't the crucial factor, so much as living our life according to the morals that are placed forward.
Originally posted by banx99 I don't believe that the question of if we are wrong is the right one to be asking.
What matter does it make if the existence of religion is false? The key factor to any religion is the way of life. If we put aside the fact that there is a God, and that Jesus is the Saviour of man, the ideas and thoughts that he puts forward are nonetheless still valid.
...[text shortened]... crucial factor, so much as living our life according to the morals that are placed forward.
Originally posted by banx99 Yay! Someone agrees with me
Yes, I agree also, up to a point. However although what you are saying is theoretically appealing, it is basically a form of humanism I think; I.E. the concept of godly virtues without God.
Christianity, (Jesus) teaches that “without me you can do nothing”, and that the purpose of spiritual regeneration is to enable the believer to experience a new spirit enabled life through the power of the spirit of god.
Currently on a macro level, there is precious little evidence of people leading this type of life and what organised churches there are, are often run by charlatans who bring the name of our God into disrepute.
what if we're all wrong?
04 Apr '09 22:40
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