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What is ESSENTIAL TRUTH in the Bible?

What is ESSENTIAL TRUTH in the Bible?

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Originally posted by galveston75
"Likewise, He could not be Son of God without also being God."

What the heck is this supposed to mean?

This is the same as saying that I am my fathers son but I'm also my father.

What????? Are you really serious that this makes sense in any possible way?
No.
This is the same as saying that I am my father's son and I'm also man.
If my father was God instead of man, then I too would be God instead
of man. Humanity begets Humanity. Divinity begets Divinity.
That is the way it works, like it or not.

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Originally posted by galveston75
Perhaps you should look up the word distinct and correct your explination...

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/distinct
Distinct does not have to be separate.

This is the example I mean.

The outline became less and less distinct as the light faded.

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Originally posted by jaywill
I have been thinking about the question of this Thread.

I think that since the Bible is a living book and the living Holy Spirit is needed to enlighten to men what God wants to speak, and at what varied times, I suppose what is ESSENTIAL may somewhat vary in different ages.

I think we need both the Holy Spirit and the apostles of the Lord to help il ...[text shortened]... er ESSENTIALS may vary slightly by the "up-to-date" burden of the Holy Spirit for a given AGE.
It seems that your indepth bible study has put you in the category of the Scribes and Pharisees Jaywill. You have lost your ability to see the simple and basic doctrines which Christ and Paul preached.

If you have to 'think' this and 'think' that, then I suggest that you have lost the teachings of Christ with your excessive study and analysis.

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Originally posted by Rajk999
It seems that your indepth bible study has put you in the category of the Scribes and Pharisees Jaywill. You have lost your ability to see the simple and basic doctrines which Christ and Paul preached.

If you have to 'think' this and 'think' that, then I suggest that you have lost the teachings of Christ with your excessive study and analysis.
LOL ! Like Paul maybe who they said had gone "mad" ?

Pray for me then. I'll be looking to follow your pristine example of how a Christian should teach so as to defend at times, fierce attacks against his faith.

Lead by example for me .

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Originally posted by RJHinds
No.
This is the same as saying that I am my father's son and I'm also man.
If my father was God instead of man, then I too would be God instead
of man. Humanity begets Humanity. Divinity begets Divinity.
That is the way it works, like it or not.
Lol...This is getting better and better.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
Distinct does not have to be separate.

This is the example I mean.

The outline became less and less distinct as the light faded.
Oh I see. OMGosh this is crazy how you are constantly changing the rules to try and make this work...Lol.
Don't ever become a school teacher as they'd laugh you out to the street the first day if you kept this up with explaining anything.

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Originally posted by Rajk999
It seems that your indepth bible study has put you in the category of the Scribes and Pharisees Jaywill. You have lost your ability to see the simple and basic doctrines which Christ and Paul preached.

If you have to 'think' this and 'think' that, then I suggest that you have lost the teachings of Christ with your excessive study and analysis.
IMO you need to do more study of the scriptures, but not with the JWs. 😏

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Originally posted by galveston75
Oh I see. OMGosh this is crazy how you are constantly changing the rules to try and make this work...Lol.
Don't ever become a school teacher as they'd laugh you out to the street the first day if you kept this up with explaining anything.
I don't claim to be a good teacher, but one can understand a subject well
without having the language skills to teach it to someone else. I suppose
that is where I am. I believe God will reward me for trying, anyway. 😏

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I think in the past I posted a extremly BASIC thread about calling on the name of Jesus to touch Jesus.

Perhaps I should revize it. Am I right ? Does anyone remember such a thread about CALLING on the name of Jesus to experience Jesus ?

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Originally posted by jaywill
I think in the past I posted a extremly BASIC thread about calling on the name of Jesus to touch Jesus.

Perhaps I should revize it. Am I right ? Does anyone remember such a thread about CALLING on the name of Jesus to experience Jesus ?
No. We JWs have amnesia again. Let's go round and round the
merry-go-round again. Hahaha. 😀 Jost kidding.

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Originally posted by jaywill
LOL ! Like Paul maybe who they said had gone "mad" ?

Pray for me then. I'll be looking to follow your pristine example of how a Christian should teach so as to defend at times, fierce attacks against his faith.

Lead by example for me .
There is no need to defend anything. First, why bother to discuss biblical matters with those who ridicule and laugh at Christians. As Christians we are told clearly to walk away from those who are not interested in Christ and his teachings.

Second, the essential teachings of Christ and Paul are very simple; actually far less complicated than your writings. There is an unnecessary complicatiing element built into much of what you write. I dont know what it is and maybe you should just repeat word for word what Paul and Christ said and that has the added advantage of avoiding apostacy.

Well .. thats what I do anyhow. It works for me and maybe it wont for you.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
IMO you need to do more study of the scriptures, but not with the JWs. 😏
Christ and Paul said nothing about the trinity or any triune God.
So more Bible study will just prove to me what I already know.

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Originally posted by jaywill
.. what is ESSENTIAL may somewhat vary in different ages...
Christ said otherwise ..

Matt 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

His words will not pass away.
Christ said very clearly what are essential beliefs.
That cannot ever change.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
I don't claim to be a good teacher, but one can understand a subject well
without having the language skills to teach it to someone else. I suppose
that is where I am. I believe God will reward me for trying, anyway. 😏
None of us have to be great teachers. What we have to teach though is the truth and in a truthful way and certianly not what is our opinion or what we think it is.
The bible clearly says that his followers would all be in "agreement" and not out thinking and teaching whatever they think is the truth on their own.
Not that all things you believe are wrong but many are and it's because your'e not in a Brotherhood of any kind to learn from others ands pray with others. The Bible is very clear on this even by saying his spirit can be with two or more in this context. So what you know is what your opinion is and it's way off on a few things and it will never get better.

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Originally posted by galveston75
Still no comments on this????
He was a perfect man physically and that is the result of Jehovah being his father. So nothing new here so I've missed nothing. But he still could have sinned if he had choose too.
So he was in no way God who cannot sin at all as you yourself stated. So explain this with the trinity....

Where's the other trinity experts? Any thoughts on this?


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