@galveston75said Oh just that a burning hell is not a bible teaching.
A burning hell is a bible teaching. The teaching that nonChristians will be cast into this burning hell and tormented for eternity, is not in the bible
@rajk999said A burning hell is a bible teaching. The teaching that nonChristians will be cast into this burning hell and tormented for eternity, is not in the bible
@kellyjaysaid Okay, so God is totally just, good, and holy without flaw. He is also merciful and loving so to justify us Jesus took on all of our sins, becoming sin so we could be forgiven. The cross of Christ makes sure God's nature is completely satisfied, and only through Jesus Christ is this true. Outside of the cross none of God's attributes are satisfied, justice therefore requires ...[text shortened]... elings in the here and now don't matter any more than they can change the sky's color, or the grass.
Is this blurb your best defence of your belief that Jesus will carry out worst torture in the history of the universe?
@divegeestersaid Is this blurb your best defence of your belief that Jesus will carry out worst torture in the history of the universe?
It will not be the history of the universe, there will be eternity with God in His Kingdom, and those kept out due to their sins. You think there will be a past, present, and future in the eternal kingdom?
@kellyjaysaid Okay, so God is totally just, good, and holy without flaw.
What you are saying is that you believe the god figure at the centre of your moral ideology is "totally just, good, and holy without flaw". In terms of defending an ideology, that's a pretty self-serving little bit of rhetoric for which you only seem to have "It is because it is" type arguments to shore up.
@kellyjaysaid It will not be the history of the universe, there will be eternity with God in His Kingdom, and those kept out due to their sins. You think there will be a past, present, and future in the eternal kingdom?
So the torment in burning flames is not "eternal" then? The burning flames will not be happening in the future? Is that your position now?
@kellyjaysaid It will not be the history of the universe, there will be eternity with God in His Kingdom, and those kept out due to their sins. You think there will be a past, present, and future in the eternal kingdom?
No idea, but my question to you was:
Is this blurb (your previous post) your best defence of your belief that Jesus will carry out worst torture ever.
@kellyjaysaid Okay, so God is totally just, good, and holy without flaw. He is also merciful and loving so to justify us Jesus took on all of our sins, becoming sin so we could be forgiven. The cross of Christ makes sure God's nature is completely satisfied, and only through Jesus Christ is this true. Outside of the cross none of God's attributes are satisfied, justice therefore requires ...[text shortened]... elings in the here and now don't matter any more than they can change the sky's color, or the grass.
All hail the Dear Leader, Kim Il Jesus !
Love him or he will torture you forever.
@caissad4said All hail the Dear Leader, Kim Il Jesus !
Love him or he will torture you forever.
Hi So have you had the chance to read or look into my post on hell and what it actually is which is just another word for the grave? The burning hell that most so called Christian religions teach is not correct because that does not exist. God would never do that to anyone and the Bible clearly says that ones death wipes out all sins.
Plus the idea of hell actually being a real place that burns humans was never taught by Jesus and was introduced into the church a few hundred years after he died. He warned that teachings such as this would be added later that were not true.
If you happened to understand that it is not what the bible teaches, would that help you in understanding that God is not that evil being that most churches teach he is? Just asking.....
@galveston75said Hi So have you had the chance to read or look into my post on hell and what it actually is which is just another word for the grave? The burning hell that most so called Christian religions teach is not correct because that does not exist. God would never do that to anyone and the Bible clearly says that ones death wipes out all sins.
Plus the idea of hell actually bei ...[text shortened]... ou in understanding that God is not that evil being that most churches teach he is? Just asking.....
What are we to make of Luke 16:
'One day the beggar died and was carried by the angels to Abraham’s side. And the rich man also died and was buried. In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham from afar, with Lazarus by his side. So he cried out, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue. For I am in agony in this fire.’
What is "hell"?
14 Jul '19 22:00
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