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23 Aug 17
23 Aug 17
Originally posted by @apathistIt gives many people a sense of purpose, and community/solidarity, and it can offer them meaning and solace (particularly in the face of the inevitability of death or as they navigate the trials and tribulations of life). Which one? I don't think it matters.
what reason to believe in a creator god
and which one
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Who in human history most impressively ACTED the part of God the Creator should God the Creator appear as, say, a man ?
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" And He says to them, Why are you fearful, you of little faith? Then He arose and rebuked the winds and the sea, and there was a great calm.
And the men marveled, saying, What kind of man is this that even the winds and the sea obey Him? " ( Matthew 8:26,27)
23 Aug 17
Originally posted by @sonshipYou spend a lot of time preaching to the choir. What Christians think of Jesus is neither here nor there to non-believers and to people of other faiths. But if idolizing Jesus and attributing to him all manner of supernatural significance and meanings, and if that provides you with what I mentioned in my first post, then good for you.
Who in human history most impressively ACTED the part of God the Creator should God the Creator appear as, say, a man ?
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23 Aug 17
Originally posted by @sonship[/b]Imagine the awe that people felt toward the first people who could predict an eclipse.
Who in human history most impressively ACTED the part of God the Creator should God the Creator appear as, say, a man ?
Hint:
[b] " And He says to them, Why are you fearful, you of little faith? Then He arose and rebuked the winds and the sea, and there was a great calm.
And the men marveled, saying, What kind of man is this that even the winds and the sea obey Him? " ( Matthew 8:26,27)
23 Aug 17
Originally posted by @fmfThis is called "damning with faint praise".
You spend a lot of time preaching to the choir. What Christians think of Jesus is neither here nor there to non-believers and to people of other faiths. But if idolizing Jesus and attributing to him all manner of supernatural significance and meanings, and if that provides you with what I mentioned in my first post, then good for you.
You do this a lot.
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23 Aug 17
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Originally posted by @js357
Imagine the awe that people felt toward the first people who could predict an eclipse.
Imagine the awe that people felt toward the first people who could predict an eclipse.
But once they got to know them they quickly realized that they were as flawed in character as everybody else.
Ie. Einstien unfaithfully ditching his first wife.
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Originally posted by @fmfMany current Christians used to belong to other faiths or had no faith at all, but they have been persuaded that nothing else can even remotely compare with Christ and what He has to offer. This persuasion may have resulted by them being exposed to the person of Christ, by what other people have shared, so no he is not just preaching only at the choir. If you have anything better than Christ to share feel free to share it. I'm not holding my breath though.
You spend a lot of time preaching to the choir. What Christians think of Jesus is neither here nor there to non-believers and to people of other faiths. But if idolizing Jesus and attributing to him all manner of supernatural significance and meanings, and if that provides you with what I mentioned in my first post, then good for you.
24 Aug 17
Originally posted by @dj2beckerIf people are persuaded by someone's liking of the Jesus story, then my first post on this page applies. I've been observing sonship (a.k.a. jaywill) here for many years and I've always felt his purpose and behaviour on this web site was preening in front of Christians he thinks he is holier than, rather than trying to persuade anyone of anything.
Many current Christians used to belong to other faiths or had no faith at all, but they have been persuaded that nothing else can even remotely compare with Christ and what He has to offer. This persuasion may have resulted by them being exposed to the person of Christ, by what other people have shared, so no he is not just preaching only at the choir. If ...[text shortened]... ve anything better than Christ to share feel free to share it. I'm not holding my breath though.
If he has converted even one non-believer in his 10-11 years here, then that person, of course, would have acknowledged it. So, as far as this community is concerned, it seems pretty clear that how impressed he is by Jesus is neither here nor there to the non-Christians among us. His personal admiration is not persuasive.
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24 Aug 17
Originally posted by @fmfYou are welcome to your subjective opinions.
If people are persuaded by someone's liking of the Jesus story, then my first post on this page applies. I've been observing sonship (a.k.a. jaywill) here for many years and I've always felt his purpose and behaviour on this web site was preening in front of Christians he thinks he is holier than, rather than trying to persuade anyone of anything.
If he has ...[text shortened]... either here nor there to the non-Christians among us. His personal admiration is not persuasive.
24 Aug 17
Originally posted by @dj2beckerWell, I know that. Because that is all you and I and sonship are swapping here. It is what this forum is for.
You are welcome to your subjective opinions.